Posts by Diogenesister

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Lott video and " Vanity" of modern JW women

by Diogenesister in

one thing i picked up from the " remember the wife of lott" video was the amount of time the jw women gave over to improving their looks.. in days of old i doubt a jw wife would have been portrayed in a salon having a lot of beauty treatments .. that's not to say it would be looked down on, per sa, i just doubt it would have been portrayed on official propaganda videos as an acceptable way for jw women to spend time that could be otherwise given over to promoting " kingdom interests".

given the way the org uses anything to belittle women i'm surprised they let those scenes fly without negative comment.. just a minor point ....i know the vids have been done to death by now!!

!.

Diogenesister

One thing I picked up from the " Remember the Wife of Lott" video was the amount of time the jw women gave over to improving their looks.

In days of old I doubt a jw wife would have been portrayed in a salon having a lot of beauty treatments .

That's not to say it would be looked down on, per sa, I just doubt it would have been portrayed on official propaganda videos as an acceptable way for jw women to spend time that could be otherwise given over to promoting " kingdom interests". Given the way the org uses anything to belittle women I'm surprised they let those scenes fly without negative comment.

Just a minor point ....I know the vids have been done to death by now!!!

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I've Just Noticed Something About The "Remember The Wife Of Lot" Video

by pale.emperor in

maybe you guys got on to this right away, but i've just noticed something about the remember the wife of lot video.. we all know the scene where the judgmental jw dad gives that disapproving look to the girl who has lesbian parents:.

this look actually appears again throughout the video - but on other jws.

in the scene where the new brother is out in service with the former co. look at the new brothers reaction to when a "worldly" person knows the former co from work:.

Diogenesister

The real estate sister that worked in the so hot real estate market so that they mortgaged their condo to buy something better, but couldn't rent out the condo because the rental market was soft?

Given that it was supposed to represent New York, what is the chance you couldn't rent out a nice flat like that? Actually in any city?

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Wow i do not reconize this religion anymore...

by _Morpheus in

had the misfortune of stopping by the "regional" convention yesterday.

i promised my daughter i would come to sunday afternoon so she wouldnt have to ride home with her mother.... holy crap it was weird!

im sure all of this has been covered on the forum but to actually see it.... just wow.

Diogenesister

tepidpoultry I've noticed clothing changes...for men ( off platform)more über formal, for women more "dressy" and glam in comparison to "The Little House on the Prarie" aesthetic of yore.

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Wow i do not reconize this religion anymore...

by _Morpheus in

had the misfortune of stopping by the "regional" convention yesterday.

i promised my daughter i would come to sunday afternoon so she wouldnt have to ride home with her mother.... holy crap it was weird!

im sure all of this has been covered on the forum but to actually see it.... just wow.

Diogenesister

Wake me up before you Jo-Ho

Interesting about the Monarch. Also, another site stated the butterfly image was amoung four recently taken off the classified list by the FBI, it's used as the symbol paedophiles ( specifically those attracted to young girls) identify other paedophiles by.

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First Humans May Have Been European

by cofty in

the fossil record of early hominins in africa is very well established with patterns of later migrations into asia and europe.

the hypothesis is sometimes referred to as "out of africa".. however a new paper from researchers at the university of toronto describes two fossil specimens of an even earlier ancestor graecopithecus freybergi who lived 7.2 million years ago, putting it close to our common ancestor with chimpanzees.

crucially these fossils were not discovered in africa but in greece and bulgaria.. the team are proposing that environmental changes that led to the formation of the sahara pushed the ancestors of graecopithecus freybergi further north towards the eastern mediterranean where the chimp-human split occurred.. this hypothesis is likely to be controversial for all sorts of reasons!.

Diogenesister

Hey there Zappa-esque ( cool name)

Have you managed to ever visit the gorge were Lucy was found?

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Jesus he knows me: jw.org

by Gorbatchov in

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today i read some postings about the changes in jw land, moving to a evangelical organization, and i have to say that jw.org is more and more recognizable in the genisis video clip jesus he knows me.. back then way overdone, now much like jw.org.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=35k6vqrt67g.

g..

Diogenesister

Ha! Really enjoyed that Gorby!! I bet they had fun making that video....I so prefer them to the über polished and over-produced music videos of today.

And yes, just like JW.Org....with one exception...Jesus doesn't get many name checks on jworg!

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cleveland ohio convention results

by nowwhat? in

of 3 in cleveland: avg.

attendance 7500 baptised 27 a robust growth of 0.38%!

not my convention so no details..

Diogenesister

Toes Up Thanks for the link...someone on reddit was looking for top-less ( male!)and bathing suited baptism candidates from that era.

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Are you a Christian Who Accepts Evolution?

by cofty in

if you identify as a christian but you have accepted that the diversity of life - including humans - resulted from a process of biological evolution could you add your name please?.

just to be clear i am referring to the fact that our physical lineage could literally be traced back all the way to non-human species.. if you like maybe you could comment on why you see not conflict between evolution and your christian faith.. there is a tendency to conflate evolution with atheism.

it would be good to show that this is not the case..

Diogenesister

How can a Christian believe in evolution? What about the ransome sacrifice?They *have* to believe in a literal garden of Eden, original sin, to make that sacrifice worth anything at all.

Not forgetting Jesus also spoke as if the flood were true.

If they believe Genesis is purely allegorical, then why was Jesus sacrificed? Why was it required?

I fully understand one can believe in God and evolution, but the sacrifice of a Jewish carpenter ? I believe this is why Islam is gaining popularity.

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love of money

by road to nowhere in

we are asked to not love money, work ot (i was never asked because the company had money to give away, rather had a job that needed done), no extra schooling.. then when we read the literature they make a big deal of the ones who are rich.

so proud of abraham, david, and on.

remember lydia?

Diogenesister

Still in I like helping people. How can I do that if I don't have anything to help them with?

Nail meet head.

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Are JWs "mind trained" to be habitual liars?

by nonjwspouse in

i don't mean overly obvious, or otherwise meaning to cause harm, but taught to lie for the purpose of avoidance.

this type of lying can be pervasive in areas of life that are not just to avoid discussions with people who have questions about the jw, etc.

my husband will lie/be deceitful about the silliest, simple things.

Diogenesister

I agree with this 1000%. Once lying is normalised it becomes pervasive in other areas of life, and hard to shake. Even the jw "story telling" that you mentioned often leads other types of more concrete lies - since these " stories" like jw urban legends, they know are not really true yet they continue to peddle them.

As to lying to the General public it's endemic. Even Antony Morris 3rd, when cornered by a reporter asking about the ARC stated he could not talk since he was going to preach the ' good news of the kingdom' *As* he ducked inside a building. A silly lie because it was so obviously untrue. Yet he couldn't help himself. Lying to non jw's is A OK.