Fernando
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Please can we all have a go at describing and celebrating our different NEW IDENTITIES, versus our OLD WBTS IDENTITY?
by Fernando inat one time most of us here identified as jws who follow the wbts gb/fds who claim to follow the bible etc.
some of us are journeying to a new identity, others may feel they already have a new identity.. although we likely have gone in many different directions, we share a common past which only ex-members can really understand and explain.
please could we each respectfully share and celebrate our unique perspectives of where we have come from, and where we each are now at on this journey?.
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Was the Bible written for two opposite audiences?
by Fernando init seems the bible can be interpreted using either a religious or a spiritual framework with opposite results.. i have been pondering if this was by design, to effect a separation between the sheep (wheat) and weeds (goats).. does this mean that the bible is effectively booby-trapped against spiritually blind (physical, natural, carnal, legalistic, moralistic, ethnocentric and gnostic) supremacist religionists who would get the wrong end of the stick and show themselves to be children of the "god of religion" and not children of the "god of abraham"?.
it would seem a religious framework results in blindness and (supremacist) behaviour common to the ruling religious watchtower hierarchy and clergy.
essentially "christless christianity".. it would seem that a spiritual framework results in the opposite - social justice, open mindedness, liberal and generous orientation, inclusivity .
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Christmas - why do so many celebrate Jesus, and so few celebrate religion?
by Fernando inhaving been out for around 2 years now, i've been pondering the universal popularity of christmas (jesus) as compared to the general unpopularity of (sectarian) religion.. my thinking on the unpopularity of religion is based on passive and low "church" attendance, where the only ones who actively and unreservedly promote and celebrate religion are those that are part of the ruling religious hierarchy which satisfies their lust for power, authority and glory.. do most of us at some level get it that jesus was/is anti-religion and that is why the religious establishment and leaders had/have him killed off (matt 23 esp v15)?.
your thoughts and perspective on this will be much appreciated and a big help in my research (sociology of spirituality, sociology of religion).. .
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Who would Jesus hang out with?
by Fernando inwith the pharisees/sanhedrin - or - with those discarded by them?with the elders/gb/fds - or - with those discarded by them?with the "clergy class" - or - the "laity class"?with those on watchtower.org - or - those on jwn?with "whitewashed graves" - or - with lgbt persons?with those who deny dysfunction - or - those who admit dysfunction?with the religious - or - the spiritual?with the rbns - or - the sbnr?with the self-righteous - or - those who accept imputed gifts-righteousness?
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What a dumb thing to have done!
by Fernando inat times i want to kick myself for mindlessly letting the "god of religion" teach me about the "god of abraham" for more than 40 years.
what was i thinking?.
then again i was a third generation born-in who simply and naively believed the "reality" i was presented with, whilst unknowingly being held captive by spiritually blind, confused, inebriated and insane watchtower religionists in a mental prison with invisible bars..
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How great is the Watchtower at describing themselves when pointing the finger?!
by Fernando inhow well the watchtower describes itself and its god - the "god of religion" namely "satan the devil"!.
how clear it is that they are not inhabited and driven by the spirit of the "god of abraham" whom they have not come to know!.
*** w50 6/1 p. 163 a mind freed for godly combat ***.
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Please President Obama - save us from the Watchtower (religion)
by Fernando indoes society need to be saved from religion, or does religion need to be saved from society?
who needs protecting?.
mouseover: no religion.
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What's your view on who REALLY are the "mentally diseased" apostates?
by Fernando inreligion allows us to know the "god of religion".. .
the unabridged gospel/bissar/injeel allows us to know the "god of abraham".. .
know = be intimate with (spiritual union or intercourse).
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Is the WT a "spiritual paradise"?
by Fernando inwhy is it near impossible to find a person in this "spiritual paradise" that has the "good news according to paul" in their hearts and on their lips?.
not a big deal?.
to paul it was!.
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Can we make a list? What does the WT really teach me about Jesus?
by Fernando injesus is not my mediator..