Posts by Fernando

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The stark contrast between Science and Christianity says it all.

by Island Man in

jesus prayed that all his followers be united as one.

but we see christianity divided into thousands of denominations.

this division is partly due to the fact that the book that christianity claims is the truth, the inspired word of a supremely wise god, was not written in a sufficiently unambiguous manner as to make its one true meaning indisputably clear throughout.. by contrast take a field of science - say physics.

Fernando

Indeed, "Christless Christianity" is a particularly virulent and pathogenic strain of the religion virus.

“Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality.” Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark

“The idea of being spiritual – not religious – is increasingly popular among the scientific community as well as in American culture at large. Many scientists who are politically liberal don’t want to associate with religion because of its conservative valence today. Historically, there are no boundary disputes between spirituality and science, unlike religion and science" (Prof David Yamane).

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A comment to make witnesses ears prick up and think.

by stuckinarut2 in

so the next time you are in a group of witnesses and discussion about a sad event where people died occurs (such as a car accident, natural disaster etc), just casually say:.

" oh well, that's a few less people jehovah has to kill at armageddon.....so don't be upset!...at least they now get a resurrection".

that will make witnesses think!.

Fernando

I think there is definite merit in devil's advocate strategies.

Spot on with this one stuckinarut2.

One imagines that carefully choosing one's audience will increase mileage.

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Governing Body Are They The Faithful And Discreet Slave Or The Faithful and Discreet Shyster

by frankiespeakin in

this new 100th memorial year of the begining rule of the imaginary kingdom of the heavens is turniing out to bring windfall profits to the watchtower corporation.

already the gb are selling real estate like there was no tomorrow and the way it looks this is just the begining as they try to liquidate assets before the "great disappointment" gets in full swing, take the money and run seems to be the new tune for these charlatans.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wcfugcollu.

faithful to what?

Fernando

Unfaithful and indiscreet to say the least...

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New Light - I've figured it out (and it's mine so don't you 'tates steal my royalties or MY followers - they belong to me [evil maniacal laughter] )

by berrygerry in

so, we continue to face mounting challenges with 607 vs 587 (20 year differential), and the generation dying out.. therefore, after a personal (420 free - honest) research and revelation, it would appear that 587 is the correct launch date.. with respect to the 7 times, russell had been influenced by john a. brown into using a year of 360 days, when prescience would most surely indicate that at the time of discovery (2014) one would use the number of days of that respective calendar, i.e.. 365 1/4 days, an additional 5.25 days per year.. so, 7 x 5.25 = 36.75, which, using the biblical principle of rounding down, is 36 years.

(a day for a year).. adding the 20 year differential to the 36 years now gives us 56 years, which when added to 1914 ce, brings us to 1970 ce.. when we ask the god google, the significance of 1970, it tells us that earth day began 4/22/1970 (note not 4/20).. and who came to the aid of the woman (rev.

was it not the earth?.

Fernando

I'd better invent (or steal) some new light of my own before there are no more followers left for me...

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my story slowly

by venting in

jw
friends

i remember studying the truth book.

the blood issue never sat well with me.

in fact it's my biggest complant.

Fernando

Hey venting.

Welcome and thank you for being willing to post and share in spite of challenges.

Personally I rely on the spell checker in MS Word.

I copy and paste my posts into Word, and then fix the spelling mistakes.

Most here will overlook spelling and grammar and enjoy reading your story.

You have 30 minutes to change, correct or update any post (just click on the pen icon).

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Did the GB ever receive new light without the passage of time forcing it upon them?

by Zoos in

1914 did not bring the end they were hoping for so new light shone down from above and corrected their understanding.. 1925 also led to unfulfilled expectations and so new light was bestowed.. .

(i could go through all the dates and expectations... but i won't.).

what if the new light about 1914 being the year that christ returned was provided before 1914?

Fernando

Great question and topic.

Without the passage of time, and without questions and contrary proof from the R&F or detractors?

I doubt it...

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Congregation Pledge Disgusted Elder

by rrb2016 in

at the meeting the other night, the elder who had to read the announcements, which included the $$ info for the new donation arrangement seemed downright disgusted as he read the announcements and asked for the vote.

he said, "well, here is another organizational change" as he read the letter about the discontinuation of the 2nd meeting during co visit.

then after they voted, he said if you have any questions ask this other elder as if he wanted nothing to do with it.

Fernando

May the disgust multiply unabated along with the insanity of the Watchtower ruling religious clergy class, until the whole ugly mess implodes...

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If You Owned This Site Would It Be Any Different?

by minimus in

jw
friends

this site is probably one of the most informative jw sites on the internet.

if you want to keep abreast of the watchtower, this is a great place to find out the latest in jw land.

kudos to simon for keeping it going all these years!!!

Fernando

Freedom of expression is hard to beat...

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A glaring example of how Watchtower's insertion of "Jehovah" corrupts the NT

by Island Man in

"the rnwt replaces "kyrios" (lord) with "jehovah" in translating romans 14:8 as follows:.

"for if we live, we live to jehovah,*+ and if we die, we die to jehovah.

* so both if we live and if we die, we belong to jehovah.".

Fernando

Another great reminder of why it is so great to be free of the apostate and controlling Watchtower organisation.

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'Enemies' by J.F. Rutherford

by Pleasuredome in

theres a book on ebay called 'enemies' by j.f.

rutherford.

ive never heard of this book before, does anyone know anything about it?

Fernando

From page 71 of "Enemies" (some OCR errors corrected):

The Devil is man's worst enemy, and his religion
is likewise a deadly enemy to man. The
Devil's organization is symbolised by an unchaste
or impure woman, which is called "Babylon".
Therefore all religions are of Babylon,
and particulary the leading religion known in
the lands called "Christendom".

All the nations, kindreds and peoples on the
earth since the flood have had and practiced,
and do continue to have and practice, some
form of religion, and each and every one has
been made so to do by the wily influence of that
wicked one the Devil, and his associate wicked
spirit. It is therefore written in the Bible of
and concerning Babylon that 'she has made all
the nations drunk with the wine of her fornication'.
(Revelation 14: 8)