Posts by GLTirebiter

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Today is Father's Day in the US

by leaving_quietly in

it is one of those holidays jws do not celebrate.

there is no reason for it.

it is not a religious holiday.

GLTirebiter

Shhhh! Don't tell the Witnesses that Father's Day has Methodist origins! Nor that it was also about remembering orphans who lost their fathers in a mine diasaster:

In December 1907, a terrible mine explosion in nearby Monongah claimed the lives of more than 360 men. Most of them had families, and the tragedy left 1,000 children fatherless.

Clayton was distraught by the thought of all those children growing up without a father's guidance, and wanted to do something to honor the importance of fatherhood. She asked her pastor to set aside a special day to commemorate fathers. She chose the Sunday closest to the birthday of her late father, also a Methodist preacher.

Christendom! Creature worship! Christian charity! Flee, brothers and sisters, flee to the spirit-directed organization!

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Kingdom Hall Weddings - November Kingdom Ministry

by BluesBrother in

if this has already been posted up - then i missed it.. this question box left me .

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GLTirebiter

Although it is not a requirement that all in the wedding party be baptized, it would not be appropriate to include in the wedding party individuals whose lifestyle grossly conflicts with Bible principles or whose conduct would raise questions in the minds of those attending.

In other words, unbeliever daddy is not going to walk his daughter down the aisle, because that could stumble the ex and JW in-laws. Just sit there, shut up, and don't forget your checkbook.

@JuliaOrwell: good for you! I wish that had been my experience.

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Biblical verses my JW mom gave me for shunning

by bsand20 in

jw
friends

john 2:9-11-anyone who claims to be in the light but hates a brother or sister[a] is still in the darkness.

10 anyone who loves their brother and sister[b] lives in the light, and there is nothing in them to make them stumble.

11 but anyone who hates a brother or sister is in the darkness and walks around in the darkness.

GLTirebiter

Why JWs even use the bible nowadays boggles my mind

For the most part, they don't. There is more extrapolation than scripture in a Watchtower article.

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Jehovah's Witnesses and Amway

by paul from cleveland in

jw
friends

maybe you're all familiar with this subject already but i just came across it tonight.

it's an article about whether or not amway is a cult.

the similarities between jehovah's witnesses and amway are incredible.. http://www.cocs.com/jhoagland/amcult.html.

GLTirebiter

Evaluating MLMs:

When will your "upline" be paid a commission: when you buy inventory, or when you make a sale?
Is there any reasonable hope of success strictly as a sales representative, without recruiting others to be "downlines" for you?
Are there sales territories assigned to each representative, sized so that each representative has enough prospective customers in their territory to succeed?
Are the products offered comparable in quality and price to those offered by retail stores and online merchants?
Considering all the expenses and time invested, what will you be earning per hour?
In short, is the company interested in your success, or only that you buy into the business?

I am aware of no MLM that has satisfactory answers to all of these; many cannot give a good response to even one of them!

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JWs cheat the least??

by lambsbottom in

jw
friends

how do ya figure this!??.

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http://www.opposingviews.com/i/religion/survey-finds-evangelical-christians-are-most-likely-cheat-their-spouses.

GLTirebiter

Only because they're such a small group relative to the other categories reported! The wording of the article is poor; it gives the results in a way that represents population size rather than the likelihood that any given persoon will cheat on their spouse. Also, the survey's methodology is poor (a self-selected sample is not a random sample, and therefore is unlikely to provide accurate results).

98.76543210% of all statistics cited in internet articles are meaningless, made-up BS (including this one).

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Anyone recall a time when your congregation came to the aid of a Brother or sister in need??

by jam in

i'm not talking about a individual, but a congregation as a whole.. i'm talking about a brother or sister that really hit hard times.. have there ever been an occasion where the brothers (elders).

decided to dip into the kh funds and help one in need????.

example, brother loose his job, get evicted, family of four or.

GLTirebiter

I cannot recall any cases of financial help, but there were cases in the 1990s and early 2000s where Ex's kingdom hall organized meal schedules to help the sick and elderly. The sad thing is that those are the only cases I remember where any bona fide charity came from the local kingdom hall.

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Who was the best batman?

by FL_Panthers in

it seems that batman has been portrayed by more actors than any other superhero.. who do you think has played the best in the role of bruce wayne/batman?.

GLTirebiter

Adam West! He turned hackneyed scripts, bad props, and absurd special effects into a low-budget slapstick classic.

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Any tips for safe web surfing?

by compound complex in

greetings to all who surf shark-infested internet waters.. after i was hit by ransomware the other day, i did research on so-called safe sites.

it seems more and more sites are being infected deliberately by hackers.

i went to a legit-looking site on a famous artist and -- wham!

GLTirebiter

Keep everything you run up-to-date (that means replacing an old Windows XP machine, because XP isn't supported any more).

Use Chrome, Firefox or Opera instead of Internet Explorer. As the biggest target, IE attracts the most attention from the evil-doers.

Set your browser to the tightest security settings you can tolerate, including Javascript settings.

Use Ad-Block and Flash-block browser extensions. Be wary of where any Flash content comes from before you run it.

Use a good anti-virus program and Spybot Search-and-Destroy.

Set up a guest account on your computer and use that for web browsing, not a "computer administrator" account.

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Are Elders Mandated Reporters or not? (California)

by awakenyr2004 in

i know clergy are mandated here in california but are elders considered clergy?.

father is on drugs and since confessed.

" father of the year, right!

GLTirebiter

Link to summary of clergy reporting laws by state (US Dep't of Health and Human Services--PDF file).

I believe the oldest daughter was telling on the father (to the elders) the entire year

In California (and many other states) the clergy privilege is limited to "pastoral communications". Communications including victims, witnesses and other third parties may not be considered to be "pastoral" and not exempt from the reporting requirement. To know if that applies to the elders' contact with the daughter, you would need the advice of an attorney familiar with the law, especially how the courts interpret what is (and is not) pastoral communications.

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Why was the Book of Enoch omitted from the Bible..

by jam in

the book of enoch taught women magic, the art of war.

and cosmetic..they felt this book was too far out in left field.. the show "bible secrets revealed".. ok, magic vs having a monster baby by a angel.. so happy they omitted that book, otherwise women would.

be leaders of the militaries.

GLTirebiter

It depends on whose Bible you're talking about. Enoch follows the pentatuch in the Ethiopian Orthodox Bible.