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Non-Bible Believers: SAT style analysis of Bible Issues
by simon17 infor those that have dismissed the bible as god's word, but nonetheless sat through endless hours of jw analysis on certain major bible doctrines, i wanted to know, just based on reading comprehension, what you thought the bible was trying to say.
now that you don't believe it, you are the most objective persons to give critical analysis of what the words say.... .
1- hellfire:.
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Survey: How Sure are you of Your Beliefs?
by simon17 ini find it interesting to see, not just the state of people's beliefs, but how sure they are of them.
or asked another way, what is the percent chance people feel they are wrong about their current beliefs.
so state your current core beliefs about jws, christianity, god, and a percentage 0-100% of how sure you are that this belief is correct.
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Views on the Creation of the Universe
by simon17 ini was thinking the other day about the fascinating dichotomy of how the creation of the universe plays a role in the belief system of believers and non-believers.
it is the difference between a top-down vs. bottom-up view of reality.
in this post i'm mainly disucssing highly rational, scientific type believers and non-believers, open to fully exploring their belief system, of which i have talked to many.. to the non-believer, the creation event, the big bang, is the one utterly unexplainable event.
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The Little Aggravations: Things I Don't Miss
by simon17 inthere are some major problems with the jws, doctrinally, socially, and organizationally.
from shunning to crazy elder bodies to guilt trips, there are many things that were really bad.
this thread is devoted to the small, insignificant things that just really really irked you.
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Read S. Hassan's Book: Do JW's really fit the cult mold?
by simon17 infirst time i got a chance to read his book, "combatting cult mind control" and was interested to see if jw's fell into the cult mold.
my opinion after carefully reading and having left the witnesses after almost 30 years is... no, they don't.
however, i would add that they wish they were but are simply too big and unwieldy to really pull it off.
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They're getting soft...
by simon17 inso i had my second random jw visit since i left.
the last time i was sick and couldn't really talk back but i was pleasant enough.
i took the magazines, but they never returned.. attempt #2: a father with his poor miserable looking son.
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I just became a Return Visit (!)
by simon17 inbeen sick all week and for the first time i had jw's visit me since i left (actually the second time, but the first time it was just two people who asked "are you turkish" and left when i said no lol.
very strange).
anyway, since i had no voice and little strength i just let them go through their presentation with a smile, took the mags, and that was it.
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Eve: Failing the Single Test She Had
by simon17 inits amazing how things seemed logical when you heard them.
consider the case of eve.
we always here how truly terrible a sin (most likely the unforgivable sin) because she was perfect and given one command.
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An argument against atheism: It's hopeless
by simon17 ini hear this critique against atheism a lot.
that its simply a hopeless way to live one's life.
believers give this argument, not passionately, but almost desicively, as if clearly a outlook they don't want for life is a wrong outlook.. is there anything you can do to reason with such ones?
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To the theists: Your reaction if God hypothetically changed the standards of right and wrong
by simon17 ini have more to say on this and its implications, but i'll keep this short to get some initial discussion.
to those that believe in god, suppose he were to hypothetically change various standards of right and wrong, suppose with the new scrolls to be opened.
things such as rape, theft and immorality are now perfectly fine and acceptable.