Another epic fail by the WBTS "art committee" or whatever they call it.
They even divided it into 12 separate slices.
anyone else after opening the dvd case for the wonders of creation reveal god's glory (hole), immediately think of the zodiac when looking at the disc?.
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Another epic fail by the WBTS "art committee" or whatever they call it.
They even divided it into 12 separate slices.
or not, as the case may be.
in-laws' family members were visiting from out of town so we went over for the evening.
my uncle-in-law is extremely religious.
we might as well let out all the murderers, burglars and child molestors out of jail since jehovah's going to take care of them later!
ya today they told me they dreamed about a judicial committee that dfd them.........a very long dream......and that later a letter was read that retracted the df..........like that happens often.........but anywoo........ i bet/hope i will dream i am in paradise with 17 concubines tonight.......it could be messy...........oompa.
messy in the dream or in the morning?
first off i'd like to say hello to everyone on this forum, especially those who clicked on my topic.. i was baptized on sept 9, 2000 when i was 15. looking back i only did it because i had been studying with the same brother for 2 years and it seemed like the next logical step.i have 3 half siblings who at one point were all going to the meetings but were never baptized.
none are in any way affiliated with any congregation at all and live a long way from myself and my mom.. my mother and i are the only ones in my family who have been baptized and as of dec. 2008 i moved into my own place because things were just too tense between us.
i figured it would be beneficial for our stress levels if i moved out.. when i became inactive my mom kept asking why.
Thanks for the replies everyone. I truly take it to heart seeing complete strangers caring about this decision.
I took my test today and they gave me my AFQT score only. I scored in the 90th percentile so as far as career options it's looking as if I will have the choice of most if not all of the jobs they offer. The other scores will be available later in the week.
Gayle-
I have weighed all the pro's and con's one could weigh without actually serving for some time. This decision is mine and won't hold anyone account for it but me. Your son's situation sounds a bit like mine. I knew college wasn't right for me but at the time I didn't want to pursue a military career. I too will hopefully be using the resources the army will provide with college.
Word will spread about it very quick i'm sure. The elders will find out whether my mom says anything or not. That doesn't really bother me as i expect everyone will hear about it sooner or later.
when using a public restroom, how do you feel when a complete stranger pulls into the urinal right next to you and starts up a conversation with you?
do you feel indifferent, slightly uncomfortable, or violated?.
or are you one of the weirdos who does this?.
if i'm at a bar i pretty much expect dudes to be talking while i'm going. but if i'm at the mall or wal mart leave me alone please.
first off i'd like to say hello to everyone on this forum, especially those who clicked on my topic.. i was baptized on sept 9, 2000 when i was 15. looking back i only did it because i had been studying with the same brother for 2 years and it seemed like the next logical step.i have 3 half siblings who at one point were all going to the meetings but were never baptized.
none are in any way affiliated with any congregation at all and live a long way from myself and my mom.. my mother and i are the only ones in my family who have been baptized and as of dec. 2008 i moved into my own place because things were just too tense between us.
i figured it would be beneficial for our stress levels if i moved out.. when i became inactive my mom kept asking why.
diamondiiz-
i have met many people who went into the US military and don't regret that decision. I have met a few that say maybe they should have chosen a different avenue to pursue a career. i understand that going to war may mean dying. does it scare me? i'd be lying if i said it didn't. but it doesn't outweigh my desire to pursue it. we could debate all day what is good and bad about doing it. but let's face it, it's for some people and not for others. the concern you show seems genuine and kinda took me back a bit. it almost seems like people on the internet have feelings!
yknot-
thanks and it's nice to meet ya. I take the test in about 12 hours (it's 3 am now). i took it in high school and was hounded by the army/marines/air force for several months. my recruiter said that's probably cause i did well on it. but since the score is only valid for 2 years i have to take it again.
i didn't have good study habits when it came to the meetings. since i didn't have a teacher or was being quizzed for a grade i never did any lessons from the WT, bookstudy, etc...
first off i'd like to say hello to everyone on this forum, especially those who clicked on my topic.. i was baptized on sept 9, 2000 when i was 15. looking back i only did it because i had been studying with the same brother for 2 years and it seemed like the next logical step.i have 3 half siblings who at one point were all going to the meetings but were never baptized.
none are in any way affiliated with any congregation at all and live a long way from myself and my mom.. my mother and i are the only ones in my family who have been baptized and as of dec. 2008 i moved into my own place because things were just too tense between us.
i figured it would be beneficial for our stress levels if i moved out.. when i became inactive my mom kept asking why.
Thanks for the replies.
I have carefully considered just going back to college (I did a couple semesters because i was given the ultimatum: leave or go to college). It's hard to go into complete details without writing a novel. But I believe or at least hope the military will give me the discipline i feel i need. This wasn't an overnight decision. I've thought about it on and off over the past few years. I'm about 90% sure I will do it.
It would be nice to see my mom accept it but she was once inactive for 7 years from about 1989-1996. She was miserable and has no regrets about her decision to return.
large halo parties + alocohol + local needs = pissed off parents.
first off i'd like to say hello to everyone on this forum, especially those who clicked on my topic.. i was baptized on sept 9, 2000 when i was 15. looking back i only did it because i had been studying with the same brother for 2 years and it seemed like the next logical step.i have 3 half siblings who at one point were all going to the meetings but were never baptized.
none are in any way affiliated with any congregation at all and live a long way from myself and my mom.. my mother and i are the only ones in my family who have been baptized and as of dec. 2008 i moved into my own place because things were just too tense between us.
i figured it would be beneficial for our stress levels if i moved out.. when i became inactive my mom kept asking why.
First off I'd like to say hello to everyone on this forum, especially those who clicked on my topic.
I was baptized on Sept 9, 2000 when i was 15. Looking back I only did it because I had been studying with the same brother for 2 years and it seemed like the next logical step.I have 3 half siblings who at one point were all going to the meetings but were never baptized. None are in any way affiliated with any congregation at all and live a long way from myself and my mom.
My mother and I are the only ones in my family who have been baptized and as of Dec. 2008 I moved into my own place because things were just too tense between us. I figured it would be beneficial for our stress levels if i moved out.
When I became inactive my mom kept asking why. I simply told her that I didn't want to go out in service or to the meetings anymore. At the time I still somewhat believed it was "the truth" and felt guilty about it. With all the meetings missed I sometimes got a brother coming to our house on Saturday mornings waking me up usually. Eventually it stopped and I lost contact with some of my closest friends I ever had.
Fast forward to when I moved out I found myself in a bad depression over this past winter. I realized I wasn't close to any of the friends i used to be. I didn't want to hear "go back to the meetings and you'll feel better". I knew that wasn't a cure all. Still, I did have on friend who was in the same band as I was. A "semi-active" memeber of the congregation that shared the hall i went to. He told me that if I were ever to be DF'd he'd still talk and associate me. He didn't care what people thought of it. That meant alot to me since at the time I thought it would be a good thing to go to the elders and tell them I had "committed fornication". I held out for awhile and then I started doing some research on the internets.
I found this forum as well as other JW/exJW sites and started taking all the information in. I then ordered a copy of Crisis of Conscience and just finished it last week. My eyes were finally opened. I no longer had to feel guilty about not going to meetings or feild service. I still revert back to the old way of thinking a lot as it's only been a coulpe months of lurking around here and there but I seem to adapt well.
When I heard of the layoffs going around at work i immediately thought about what am I going to do now? I only have a high school education. I thought of the miitary. Long story short I go for my ASVAB test today. Now i have the problem of telling my mother about it. It's not about getting DF'd or DA'd that bothers me, it's how it would make her very upset and sad. I'm not sure it would be appropriate to start bashing the belief system she brought me up in. I almost want her to stay in the organization because it's all she has. Is this the right attitude? I really don't know.
I'm writing and posting this because I need to vent. The only person I told about the military is a friend i made at work. But it is really hard for him to understand how a parent or anyone in the organization feels. That is why I would appreciate any comments or criticism or whatever.
If you made it here, thanks for reading. I really appreciate it.
after reading the thread about strange field service experiences, i kept thinking about some of the strange stories.
when we would stop for break on a saturday morning:.
there was this brother and his wife who were uber-rightous about getting time in.
I used to look forward to going out in service with a particular elder and his wife because i knew they usually did a few return visits that each last about 30-45 minutes. Then we would go to the local bakery for fresh donuts and end around 11:45.