Wheee!!! spent a lovely evening with JW family *rolls eyes*

by Odrade 37 Replies latest jw experiences

  • Odrade
    Odrade

    Or not, as the case may be. In-laws' family members were visiting from out of town so we went over for the evening. My uncle-in-law is EXTREMELY religious. Extreme. He also claims to be anointed, and of course, he is one of those "exemplary" JWs who nobody would ever dream of doubting he is actually anointed. He pontificates and preaches CONSTANTLY, even when it is other witnesses. But tonight, he had an even stronger reason to go on and on about the absolute moral and legal and bla bla bla rightness of Jehovah's Holy and Blessed Organization, because my husband and I were there, and we are known to be inactive. Depending upon what MIL/FIL have told them, they may even be aware that we are "opposers." And three other family members were there who have recently let it be known to family that they are not participating as JWs.

    Well, out of all of us, I was really the only one who did not handle the situation with grace by just smiling, nodding and agreeing. I had a couple of words, and left the room. I was very impressed with the hateful look I received, but I'm relatively certain I had a matching one of disgust on my face. U-I-L was going on and on about the perfection of Jehovah's Legal System, he even had the gall to bring up how just it is that "as long as a woman screams when she is raped" it doesn't matter if nobody hears her, "as long as she screams, she will get justice." Also he was going on about how perfect the 2 witness system is, and how it protects anyone from unjust accusations.

    Yeah, well I couldn't keep my yap shut, and I pointed out that many women don't scream when raped because they are terrified, or being threatened with their life if they make noise, or for whatever reason. Also, I couldn't help pointing out that rapists don't usually stand around waiting for a couple of witnesses before they rape.

    His reply of course was that "That's okay because Jehovah will take care of it." I said that I'd rather trust the legal system. I got the evil look, and he went on about how corrupt the legal system is and how only the truth can handle stuff like that the right way. Segue into "the best advice the Society ever gave regarding rape is to make yourself vomit on the rapist. That's the best way to stop an attack cold, just vomit on the rapist."

    I said "surely they aren't saying that anymore because that so-called method has been shown without a doubt not to be a reliable way to stop an attack." It was like I wasn't even there. He actually pantomimed vomiting several more times after that and said "best method, best advice, that's what the Society says."

    Jebus Christmas, I am so mad I could spit nails. I can't even remember the last time I was that mad at a JW. Seriously, it has been years. It was offensive. And I only had to suffer through 10 minutes of that spew because I went in another room. Another family member (a kid who handled himself quite gracefully,) got hammered on for at least 30 minutes with gloom and doom and how everything is rotten and wicked and evil and bad all the time with no relenting, everything is getting worse and horrible, etc etc ad nauseaum.

    I mean, HOW do they SURVIVE such intense and all-pervasive negativity? Seriously, he is probably the most negative person I've ever had the displeasure of listening to. He's worse than Rush Limbaugh, and possibly just as bombastic. He'd give some of those cable TV preachers a run for their hellfire and damnation money.

    *beats head on wall*

    Oh and the best part? We are supposed to go over there and visit again. Guess who's going to have a migraine. Go on, guess.

  • BonaFide
    BonaFide

    I bet your anointed family member is not like that because he is a true believer. He is like that because he thinks he is important because he is anointed. That's why he is so dogmatic.

    Try this next time:

    "I found such a great article in the May 1, 2007 Questions From Readers. It explains how the anointed have no more holy spirit or insight than the Other Sheep. What do you think about that?"

    When he says, "Well, we are Christ's brothers" then say, "Well, we allow all who want to partake to partake. Anyone can partake, anyone. And the elders are required to count all baptized partakers, except disfellowshipped ones. That means anyone can partake. But THE POINT IS that the anointed have no more holy spirit or insight than a regular publisher."

    Don't let him change the subject.

    BF

  • BonaFide
  • BonaFide
    BonaFide

    I bet your anointed family member is not like that because he is a true believer. He is like that because he thinks he is important because he is anointed. That's why he is so dogmatic.

    Try this next time:

    "I found such a great article in the May 1, 2007 Questions From Readers. It explains how the anointed have no more holy spirit or insight than the Other Sheep. What do you think about that?"

    When he says, "Well, we are Christ's brothers" then say, "Well, we allow all who want to partake to partake. Anyone can partake, anyone. And the elders are required to count all baptized partakers, except disfellowshipped ones. That means anyone can partake. But THE POINT IS that the anointed have no more holy spirit or insight than a regular publisher."

    Don't let him change the subject.

    BF

  • Odrade
    Odrade

    Thanks, thanks, thank.

    No, he really is a true believer. It's probably the only thing that allowed me to (relatively) keep my cool, because I know he is 100% sincere and believes that he is doing what is right and loving. This guy cries, REAL TEARS, not crocodile tears, when he is preaching. It's disconcerting, but definitely genuine. I think that is what makes me so mad.

    When someone is just spouting to spout, or to hear the sound of their own self-importance, I can usually just roll my eyes and walk away relatively unaffected. It is that he believes all of it with every fiber of his being, that's what sets my teeth on edge. My parents are like that too, but they know better than to preach at me like that. blech.

  • Quandry
    Quandry

    How about this one......

    "Hey, I hear the number of annointed is going up, up, up!! And some of the new "annointees" are very young. Isn't that great, uncle? Huh? Huh?"....."Wouldn't ya think that after all these years into the end the number would be going down like the Society said it would? Well, anyway, isn't it great?" "Maybe next year it will hit 10,000...whata ya think?"

    Or how about this one...."If I vomit right now, will it make you stop talking?"

  • Edington
    Edington

    Sooooo, Jehovah would be there listening as a woman is raped to hear if she screamed or not???

    Perverse & warped idea of justice I'd say. Surely if I was in earshot of this violent act & I did nothing to help her but did make notes whether she 'screamed' or not, you would all think I was somewhat short of compassion?

    Ed

  • dudeson
    dudeson

    we might as well let out all the murderers, burglars and child molestors out of jail since jehovah's going to take care of them later!

  • homeschool
    homeschool

    Yowzas, sista. Well, please don't feel like you are alone. I'm cringing at your story, partly because I've experienced similar situations. Although, none quite THIS extreme

  • chickpea
    chickpea

    get the migraine and make other, better
    and FUN plans for the evening since you
    KNOW that this man has an impervious
    cult-mind that will not allow him to hear you...

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