Posts by inbetween

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Where do we go from here, the Lloyd-gate?

by raymond frantz in

the problem is where do we go from here?

lloyd is not going to go away , he has too much to loose(money) neither will his followers go as we have seen the last few days there was hardly a drop to his membership .so what's next?

we will be branded in the same colours and because of him we won't be taken seriously anymore.

inbetween

Where are the serious, thoughtful videos? I can't find any.

There are some, but most are really issues blown out of proportion. While I enjoyed some of LLoyds videos for entertainment purposes, often they were storms in a water glass. AM III buying liquor at the store? So what, looks pathetic, but I guess so I would look in such a store as well (disclaimer: I don`t care for AM III, he is an arrogant cult leader).

Lloyd did have some semi interesting interviews, thats about it.

One of the best source of information regarding JW doctrine is not any video, but can be found on jwfacts.com. There is almost all you need to know.

Rest is mostly just ranting about something...

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The Valhalla Murders - Netflix

by Dagney in

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weekend netflix binging.

this series has a sub-story of one of the detectives raised as a jw.

you can tell the details aren’t exactly correct, but the intent to show familial shunning and it’s affects are loud and clear.

inbetween

Just seen the show recently, was surpirsed by the JW subplot.

It was good, that the shunning was shown, was a little upset though, with the scene, when the main character was forcefully removed from the funeral at the KH. This would not have happened, as he did not start trouble there. Its a pity, since such exaggerated depiction gives watching JW an excuse, to blame apostate lies for it.

Also later, him and his sister, if I recall correctly, talk baout being in hell, something JW don't believe at all.

Other than that, and beside the forced inclusivity scene, the other poster mentioned, not a bad show for a small country like Iceland.

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Uh Oh, It's 2022 - That Means It's Time For ...

by Simon in

... soylent green!.

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inbetween

remember watching it in the eighties as a teen, and thinking, omg I`ll be old by then... well....

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Inside the brutal world of jw's

by jonahstourguide in

woke up to this piece on abc news australia.. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-13/jehovah-witnesses-child-abuse-four-corners-investigations/100444320.

the shine lawyer group have a reputation for going in hard.. jtg..

inbetween

oh boy, didn`t you all not listen to the last talk on saturday at this years convention? The brother clearly exsplaned that this information is untruthful and basically from satan....

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Enduring watchtower study

by road to nowhere in

my studying consists of skimming the article.

this one starts with 2017 don't give up convention.

at the time i changed it to i give up.

inbetween

Study made no sense, if you want to encourage to endure, use other biblical examples, Job, Moses etc, but the almighty ? come on, made even no sense to my pimi wife....

according to their won doctrine, 1000 years are one day for him, how is enduring even on the same level, despite so many other logical flaws....

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Intelligent Disobedience

by George One Time in

did you notice the expression "intelligent disobedience" in the febuary 2017 broadcast (at 7:30)?.

it was used with the illustration of a guide dog for blind persons, that sometimes has to disobey it's owner.. what a fine example for us!

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inbetween

interesting in this context were also the following videos, which left a little more room for personal decsions than the usual "I stop anything secular (job, entertainment, etc) and go full time service"

a new trend ? or just the normal up and down, between tighten up and loosening....

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New light in this weeks WT?

by Indian Larry in

anybody have any ideas where they are going with the "new light" they have been pushing last week and this week?

for instance in this weeks study article one section reads:.

in years gone by, we believed that jehovah became displeased with his people because they did not have a zealous share in the preaching work during world war i. we concluded that for this reason, jehovah allowed babylon the great to take them captive for a short time.

inbetween

bibleexaminer - exactly my thought, what you said. In the same WT last sunday they even mentioned in parapraph 8 this:

" During the first world war, no effort was spared to keep providing spiritual food and encouragement to the scattered Bible Students"

What spiritual food ? the slave was not installed until 1919 ?

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Faithful slave, new teaching

by inbetween in

most of us agree, that jw doctrine, even if you accept the bible as gods word, doenst add up.. just one detail:.

the new teaching about the fds is, that it was established, not in 1st century, but in 1914 (1919?

), and that jesus looked down on earth after his installment as king 1914 and choose the bible students as his organisation.. however, the new kingdom book mentioned in this weeks study, when russel and co startd to publish in newspapers from 1903 on, that jesus manouvered matters, in order to make it successful.. hm, he didnt even choose them yet as his people, but he already supported them ?.

inbetween

Most of us agree, that JW doctrine, even if you accept the bible as Gods word, doenst add up.

Just one detail:

The new teaching about the FDS is, that it was established, not in 1st century, but in 1914 (1919?), and that Jesus looked down on earth after his installment as king 1914 and choose the bible students as his organisation.

However, the new kingdom book mentioned in this weeks study, when Russel and co startd to publish in newspapers from 1903 on, that Jesus manouvered matters, in order to make it successful.

hm, he didnt even choose them yet as his people, but he already supported them ?

huh ?

So when I choose a new car, and I didn't even decide or buy one yet, I just put new tires on some random car ? And then some time later I buy it, because it has new tires ?

Just a small detail but one of many contradictions and inconsistencies, you can spot them even on almost every piece of literatur they produce lately...

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The lord of the rings

by BlackWolf in

now that i've found out ttatt i've been indulging in a lot of so called "spiritistic" entertainment lol.

i recently watched all of the lotr/hobitt movies and man were they awesome!!!

who knew spiritism could be so much fun lol.

inbetween

Even in my days of full indoctrination I watched all LOTR ( the first one even 3 times in the cinema, when it came out). Bought the dvds extended version. Up to this day, my wife and me watch it every winter again.

Bunch of brothers watched and loved it,

However, they more andmore kept it silent. I know several brothers today who watched it and keep it silent for fear or counseling.

Its soo stupid actually, especially when you realize how much paralelles to bible (and of course lots of other mythology) is in there, and good fights evil, something all witnesses believe in right ?

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My letter to Bethel about the flood

by Cornbread in

i've decided to go full public with a new username on this forum.

it's been almost a decade since i've been out and i don't care at this point who knows.

that being said, here's a letter that i'm mailing to bethel.

inbetween

Why do they not throw out the litera flod story, and accept that it either was a local event or just a story? the lessons, to obey God and fear him still would be there.

They easily casted the idea of literal creation days, and they admit , that sun and stars falling down (revelation) is only an illustration.

So why not admit the same with the flood story?

IMHO here is the main reason:

The WTBS will never give up on a literal interpretation of the flood story,

it too much serves as a predecessor of their belief in big A, everyone will be wiped out except of those in the arc (modern times: those in the org)

Its an intergarl part of their gult and fear tactic to keep the sheep under control