as you quoted: " the committee should obtain the facts and determine the individual's attitude"
this is basically what any JC does, first investigate to find out the facts, then determine true repentance or lack of it.
so, what is the discipline, if any for a blood transfusion?.
as you quoted: " the committee should obtain the facts and determine the individual's attitude"
this is basically what any JC does, first investigate to find out the facts, then determine true repentance or lack of it.
so, what is the discipline, if any for a blood transfusion?.
even a DA needs three elders to sit and decide, of course in absence of the person, which does not hinder a JC, for example, when there is evidence of someones wrongdoing, even if he does not appear in front of a comitee, it still needs three elders to decide the DF, same with DA.
so, what is the discipline, if any for a blood transfusion?.
and don`t forget, also a DA calls for a judicial comitee, with or without the accused one. There is no difference in handling and consequence in DF or DA, its just the name in order to deceive media, officials or whoever outside the cult.
i remember years ago when i was a little boy aroung 9 years old, our bookstudy conductor was in the hospital and at the last minute one of the elders asked my aunt to be the book study conductor.
this was the first time i have seen this happen.
my aunt did a very good job and the bookstudy acted as it was not something from outer space.
kinda sick isn`t it ?
It still amazes me, how some sisters, who are well educated and have a well respected job, are treated like people of second class in the kingdom hall, and they let it happen....
paragraph 20 out of the article in the sept 2014 study wt about fulltime service says this.... .
"full-time servants age, and so do their parents.
when parents are witnesses, likely their fondest wish is for their children to stay in their assignments.
wow, i just read it myself on jw.org, and I´m quite shocked,
I thought, nothing can surprise me anymore in WT-land, but this certainly did, while I know, that some pioneers always expected the congo to help with their aged parents, at least you could argue with the biblical responsibility of children.
What about Jesus counsel on the Pharisees who gave something to the temple instead of taking responsibiliy for parents ?
Mark 7:
10 For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and mother,’ [d] and, ‘Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death.’ [e] 11 But you say that if anyone declares that what might have been used to help their father or mother is Corban (that is, devoted to God)— 12 then you no longer let them do anything for their father or mother. 13 Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many things like that.”
unbelievable how the WT more and more openly distorts scriptures.....
when...... 1) we follow christ example not the gb.
2) stop df'ing those for challenging current or past doctrine and allow us to use our god given gift of reason and free wil.
sure kick out the scumbags even the lions club have rules for membership, but not those who just use their brains and consience.. 3) get rid of the nonsensical blood teaching that has cost the lives of thousands and beg god for forgiveness.
there was a time, I thought those changes would make a great religion, but in the meantime, I lost all hope, the org is beyond repair
atheists want there to be no god.
absolutely false!
atheists i have met arent evil, but very moral.
Jon preston, totally subsribe to your comment.
the way watchtower paints the picture of Atheists is completely stereotyping.
I never understood, how someone cannot believe in a creator until I learned about, what proof really means...
ok so this weeks book study says that jehovah does not protect individuals in a miraculous way..... but the yearbook gets filled with so called experiences of "faithful" ones blabbering on about "how god saved me etc".
these ones are held up as examples of faith etc....... how do they justify the double standards?
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double standard is the second name of the wt-org
higher education, blood, pagan origin, clergy, association with UN, questioning of doctrine, etc, etc...
the gb can kiss my ass.. i'm writing "0" on the little slip of paper they pass out.. hey here's a thought:.
you know that "widow's might" stuff they're always talking about?
well i'm pretty dang sure that the lady was giving from the heart not because she filled out some dumba$$ piece of paper pledging two small coins several months previous!.
an elder used the local needs to read and sicuss this letter, the result was, eveyone was confused, even none of the elders understood really the letter,
the whole thing became just nonsense.
Should the brothers write down what they will donate per month all together? or only the money for the construction? Or should they write down what amount should be taken from a) the kingdom hall income or b) matth 24:14 box ?
nobody really knew at the end, was kind of funny...
or atleast tweaking it again... apparently there has been rumors of this coming out of bethel.
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the only doctrine that never ever will change:
obey Gods channel the FDS !
everything else is only temporary