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  thinking of leaving

  by justme67 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am 46 and have been a jw for only 6 years.

  i was doing ok until about a month ago.

  we were having an international convention and i heard the brother that had to pick up 2 of the members of the governing body had to get a background check done on him and his wife.

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  cantleave

  Sounds like you have nothing to lose by leaving the cult, and everything to gain.
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  Life in the new system

  by moley in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this always bothered me.. so the dust finally settles and your glad your still alive, so the first thing you do is phone your family and friends to see if their ok. no signal.

  ok i'll drive to the kingdom hell to find out what to do.

  driving past all the dead bodies you realise your almost out of petrol, stop at the garage cannot get fuel as there is no power.

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  cantleave

  Do you really believe Jehovah would allow such a distopian outcome?
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  Recording of Telephone Call made to London Bethel Alarming!

  by outinthemeadows in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i subscribed to this youtube.com channel a year ago.

  this was updated this morning.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4_vsgoawes.

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  cantleave

  I concur with passowrd protected, he was too emotional and hadn't thought through what he wanted out of the conversation.
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  Have you reconnected with ex-JW's after you have left the Borg?

  by EdenOne in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after reading from another thread, i felt it was worth asking this question.. if you left the borg on your own, have you attempted to meet others whom you used to be connected with while you were "in", but who have also become ex-jw's before or after you have left the wts?

  if that's the case, has it remained a friendship, or the connection grew cold?

  just curious as to what keeps friendships "stick" [or not] once you no longer have the borg's doctrinal glue.. your experiences are welcome.. eden.

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  cantleave

  I have reconnected with quite a few. Sadly not all the friendships last which for me included my best man and friend from childhood who was DF'd many years before I exited. He still believes that JW's have the truth he just can't live up to their standards.
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  an experimental physicist explains his faith

  by venting in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what do you think of this story?

  all i can do is quote from someone much smarter than me.

  "men offten mistake strength of their feelings with strength of their argument" venting..

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  cantleave

  link?
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  Does consciousness end with the death of the body

  by givemejustalittlemoretime in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  apparently, the carvakas in anceint hinduism were materialists and skeptics, arguing that consciousness ends with the death of the body and that therefore we should take pleasure in this life while we possess it and practice compassion toward others.

  they also argued that direct observation is the only certain way to know anything, and thus the existence of supernatural forces and realities cannot be established and must be rejected.

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  cantleave

  I hate studidity
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  Obama Calls For Collectivized New World Order

  by Dis-Member in

  1. social
  2. current

  obama calls for collectivized new world order"people are anxious.... the old order isnt holding"during a fundraiser in seattle this week, president barack obama called for a new order based around a collectivized system in order to quell peoples concerns about geopolitical strife and the economy.. people are anxious.

  now, some of that has to do with some big challenges overseas, said obama, adding, but whether people see whats happening in ukraine, and russias aggression towards its neighbors in the manner in which its financing and arming separatists; to whats happened in syria ... to the failure in iraq for sunni and shia and kurd to compromise ... to whats happening in israel and gaza..... part of peoples concern is just the sense that around the world the old order isnt holding and were not quite yet to where we need to be in terms of a new order thats based on a different set of principles, thats based on a sense of common humanity, thats based on economies that work for all people.

  ... but here in the united states, what people are also concerned about is the fact that although the economy has done well in the aggregate, for the average person it feels as if incomes, wages just havent gone up; that people, no matter how hard they work, they feel stuck.. .

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  Who is going to fill the vacuum when Obama leaves office?
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  Can God Really see the Future?

  by Randomthoughts in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is regarding the garden of eden/apple dispute.. if the all knowing, all powerful god sees/knows the future then surely the angels (that he created) should know the god knows the future.. now god knows that humans cannot rule themselves, hence the angels should also know this 'fact'.. why does he need to prove this point to the angels (as is taught by the wt)?.

  do the angels doubt the almighty god or do they have a reason not to trust or believe him?.

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  cantleave

  giveme..............you do talk some total crap.
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  Pixar the production company is jealous of Caleb and Sophia video's

  by life is to short in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so said the co last night.. apparently a jw was on a flight and just happend to sit next to some big wig from pixar and when the man from pixar heard that he was a jw the pixar man just gushed over what great work that the watchtower has done in producing the caleb video's.

  he siad he only wished pixar could do such great work.

  the co said we are able to do it because we have free labor and jehovah behind us.. my husband stayed home from the meeting but wanted to tie in by phone and that is what the co said in his talk.. the co also talked about all the changes that have happened in the last ten years and how if some of the friends did not like it they needed and to quote him "they just needed to get over it" these changes are going to happned period.

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  cantleave

  Highly believable.
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  Not willing to meet with Elders? DF?

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if a person says that they are not willing to meet with the elders or does not meet with them, will that get them df'ed?

  there is a rumor about a person who has left the truth (went inactive) about being imoral.

  they do not have the 2 person witness so they can't take actions because of this.

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  cantleave

  We refused to play their game, we were both DF'd in absentia.