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Posts by freddo
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is this site dominated by americans and canadians ?
by the max inim new to this forum, most topics up for discussion are usa centric, and thus for us euro,s are boring, like whats on your tv chanels, wtf, who cares what your watching on tv,i dont come here to listen to that, either promote something intresting, or shut the hell up .
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How Many JWs Have You known Who Have Commited Suicide?
by Was New Boy injames olsen and richaed wheellock both bethelites.. rich templet.
rich and james out of guilt, richard out of depression.. james and rich were both under 30 years old.. after richard wheelock (a bethel heavy) killed himself the society changed it's stand on whether suicides could be resurrectioned or not..
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freddo
In our cong - one
Oh plus one brought up by a deranged mother and who was abused as a kid by an older boy and who never got baptised but who was removed as "an approved associate" later in his teens (remember that phrase from pre 90's witnessdom?) who got into drugs and booze and later took an overdose - accidental officially but makes me go hmmmmmmm?
And another who never got baptised but whose deranged mother (yes another one) dragged up around the truth and who became a prostitute first.
There is a certain kind of susceptible person that the truth does not help. (understatement)
Also knew of a serious attempt at it but thankfully failed.
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What % of your Congregation is Pioneering in April?
by Open mind inour family is part of the 32% unappreciative spiritual loser class.
not regular or auxiliary.. .
our congo has 51% aux pioneering in april.. .
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freddo
Yeah 50% here - I expect they'll read em out this Thursday at the announcements (if they remember - oh of course they will cuz for once the hotshot elders are doing it and will want their names read out) - yawn.
My forecast for the January 2012 km:
Can you Auxilliary Pioneer this Memorial Season? (10 mins Q&A To be handled by overzealous elder with great freeness of speech)
1. After the bounteous thrilling spiritual blessing from Jehovah last memorial month the FDS (tm) (Matt 24 v 45-47) are offering the same privilege this memorial and as it is so close to the turn of the month between March and April you can choose which month to do your 30 hours in! How thrilled we are at this wonderful opportunity to zealously join in this great shout of praise.
Q) Why are we thrilled?
2. One elderly sister who we will call Martha aged 103 who auxilliary pioneered last year said "I was so excited at this thrilling opportunity to have one last thrilling opportunity to auxilliary pioneer that I zealously took the opportunity to join the ranks of pioneers. It wasn't easy, being in an oxygen tent an'all but four strong ministerial servants carried me to all the householders so that I could join in this thrilling opportunity! I am so pleased that although I may never see Armageddon (I've only been waiting 60 years, God is not slow etc ...) that I have had this thrilling opportunity to join in this great shout of praise!" If Martha can do it then how about you you slacker?
Q A) Why was Martha thrilled? B) Can you Auxilliary Pioneer, you slackers?
3. Damien* who has no arms or legs and who is encased in an Iron Lung signs using American Eyelid Language - his carers are a willing source of thrilling opportunity for Damien to witness. We should not infer that Damien was winking at the pretty nurse but understand that he was innocently offering the thrilling opportunity of everlasting life to her.
*Name has not been changed
Q) Why was Damien thrilled?
4. Let us consider our circumstances and see if we can join in this thrilling opportunity and be thrilled at having the great privilege to bear witness in Memorial Season 2012! If you cannot manage 30 hours what can you do - you faithless and useless bloodguilty slave!?
Q) What should we do to be thrilled and therefore not be bloodguilty and a subject of Gehenna?
Or sumpin' like that!
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Regular Pioneers: How low will the WT go?
by Alfred inso i just came across an article in the watchtower (december 1, 1959 page 726) where it mentions that pioneers (or should i say culportuers?
) in the 1930s had to put in a minimum of 150 hoursper month in field circus with the phonograph (i'm guessing the record being played was rutherford's "millions" speech).
i have to wonder how many pioneers the wt would actually have nowadays if this were still the minimum monthly quota and if they'd still have to stand on a street corner with some sort of audio system... in today's economy, i really don't think they'll find much more than 2 potential candidates per circuit... which is obviously the reason that the gb keeps lowering the bar... .
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freddo
There will be mega hoopla afterwards about Jah's blessing with this new loving provision of 30 hrs. How a zillion new auxiliary pioneers joined up. It will be repeated next year in Memorial month.
I just hope they get off their backsides and reduce the wt study to 30 mins or even 45 mins would help. But they won't because they never have to sit through it. The one meeting bonus for the CO's and DO's is that they only have a 30 min paragraphs not read wt study.
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Is anyone here doing April's 30 hour Auxillary Pioneer Special ?
by RubaDub ini know there are many active jw's here and was just wondering if anyone is going to take advantage of april's special of only 30 hours for the month.. i actually might, just to irk some of the elders that can't figure me out in their minds.. it would involve 2 long days ... that's it.
even i can go out in fs in the morning with the group and hang out at bus stops and train stations the rest of the day.. i am really tempted.. rub a dub.
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freddo
You can fake it. Here's how.
Ask your field service overseer for your own map because you want to work your lunch hour, after work, whatever. Likely he'll say no but you can probably get a handful of not home sheets or something.
Tell everyone you will work your lunch hours from your office with tracts. Sit with a tract on your desk or in your car window while you snore and listen to the radio.
Choose a mid-week session a couple of times when the pioneers are out and do about 2 hours with them and then "go on calls".
Meet with your group on a Saturday/Sunday and of course you started early didn't you when you worked the mall (hid behind a newspaper on a park bench/ railway station) ?
Show your ugly mug about 5 times during the month for about an hour a time and make up the rest! Simples as we say in the UK!
You'll be a MS soon if you're not careful!
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Hey fellas, would you cheat on this woman? Beautiful, but deadly.
by miseryloveselders init might be kind of risky........ .
i never heard of her until today.
leryn franco.
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freddo
I've no idea who she would find attractive Este - I certainly find her looks attractive but that is not the same as being an attractive person is it?
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Going Door to Door with Scrolls
by VM44 indoes anyone know where this anachronistic and propagandistic picture came from?.
did a watchtower artist draw it?.
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freddo
Do you notice that in WT illustrations Jesus always seems to be no further than 100 paces from a hairdresser or washing machine! Perfect hair, not covering the ears, white garments. Hahaha!
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How do they pick the C.O.T.B.O.E / P.O ?
by Pitchess Co-Gen inhow do they go about picking the leader of the congregation?.
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freddo
10 points from the CO for worshipping the Watchtower.
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CO's putting the screws on elder bodies, and ministerial servants to auxilliary pioneer this April.
by miseryloveselders ini have such a love/hate, 50/50 relationship with this organization any more, but a letter was read to the elders and ministerial servants that has pushed me to the 30/70 range in favor of hate, if even momentarily.
most of you if not all are aware of the auxilliary pioneering initiative for this upcoming april.
it's no secret that i'm not real fond of pioneering as its unscriptural for one thing.
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freddo
Here's how to do it. If you can be bothered. It gives "visibility" - it costs a day so the pio-sneers see you - and you can stay an elder and be a hypocrite like I was before I finally had the balls to resign. I'm still a hypocrite because I still go to keep family happy but not as big a one as I used to be because I bother no-one anymore.
Go out as normal - 3 times a month on a Sat or a Sun. But there are five weekends so count 5 times (if I remember correctly) you normally scrape an hour but as you "go on calls before and after" you count 3hrs a time. So that = 15
Take one day off and work with the pioneers. One group am and another pm do 3 hours total and count 8 (those coffee stops all mount up don't they?)
Witness during your lunchbreak - you work 20 days a month and count 30 minutes a day (put a barely visible tract on your desk or on your dashboard while you sleep in your car) = 10
33 hours - simples!
"Theocratic warfare" at it's best!
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Eek! A Male!
by laverite in"eek!
a male!
treating all men as potential predators doesn't make our kids safer."http://online.wsj.com/article/sb10001424052748703779704576073752925629440.html.
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freddo
Snoozy said "I have never heard of a gay pedophile".
I have.