Posts by Heaven

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OKAY, GAME OVER! The number one reason the New Testament amounts to bunk

by Terry in

for me, the dead giveaway is this.

jesus wrote nothing.. stop and think about that.. if jesus were the authentic messiah, his ministry would not simply be local.. his instructions, his mission, the details of his teachings would be too precious to risk leaving it in the hands of "men unlettered (illiterate) and ordinary (blue-collar yokels).".

jesus, were he the one and only hope of mankind, would be absolutely certain to write down with great simplicity and specificity the exact owner's manual necessary to rescue mankind.. never happened!.

Heaven

Terry said: For me, the dead giveaway is this. Jesus wrote nothing.

Terry, this was another moment for me regarding religion and the belief in God. If Jesus was as important as claimed to be and if he was truly interested in starting a global movement, I think he would have written something down or at least employed a scribe to be with him to do it.

Another 'ah hah' moment for me was finding out that NONE of the authors of the Bible ever met Jesus and that the gospels were written well after the events occurred by people who were not there but wrote it in Greek, not Aramaic.

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Tight Pants

by pixel in

today is friday.

so let's see something refreshing on the new june 2016 study wt.

tight pants!.

Heaven

stuck said: He is CLEAN SHAVED, he is AT THE MEETING and in SERVICE, and STILL they have to find something to "counsel" him on???!!!!

stuck, you hit the nail on the head here. Browbeating is part of the Borg's 'modus operandi'. It nauseates me.

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Evolution is a Fact #25 - Deep Time

by cofty in

in the 18th century the calculations of archbishop james ussher regarding the age of the earth were still accepted without question.

according to ussher god made the earth at 6pm on the evening of saturday 22nd october 4004 b.c.. this naive certainty was to become a victim of the scottish enlightenment and the brilliant mind of james hutton.

having qualified as a medical doctor in 1749 hutton returned to the family farm in berwickshire not far from where i am typing this now.

Heaven

Excellent read cofty.

The Grand Canyon in Arizona, U.S.A. is another example of 'deep time'. It is an "excellent record of three of the four eras of geological time, a rich and diverse fossil record, a vast array of geologic features and rock types, and numerous caves containing extensive and significant geological, paleontological, archeological, and biological resources. It is considered one of the finest examples of arid-land erosion in the world."

For those of us who were raised to believe the Earth is only 6,000 years old, these actual monuments of 'deep time' are there, right in front of us, as evidence that this religious theory is bogus.

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What TV shows were forbidden in your JW household?

by Funchback in

in the u.s., three's company was not allowed.

it was explained to me that it was an immoral show because a man and women lived together and no one was married.

the sister who gave this observation was a family friend and we were newbies to the religion.. at least i somehow managed to watch the benny hill show undetected..

Heaven

As younger kids, for some reason, we were not supposed to watch The Flintstones or Bugs Bunny Road Runner Hour however we did anyway. Mum didn't really like it but didn't stop us either which was weird.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqKf7j43i_k

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Anthony Morris is an idiot

by Watchtower-Free in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqh6y2hvky0.

Heaven

My cousin 'stuck with the Watchtower' and refused a blood transfusion. She died.

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Ladies: Circumcision or not?

by Wonderment in

the topic of circumcision has been brought up a few times recently.

then i wondered... .

how do women really view circumcision?

Heaven

Wonderment said: It is hard to understand why some people react so strongly against the practice

I suspect you are unfamiliar with the ancient rituals of both male and female circumcision. You may want to research them to understand the outrage.

Circumcision should only be done if there is a medical need to do it.

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scholarly lectures on bible history or evolution

by cobweb in

i recently enjoyed this series of yale lectures on youtube about the hebrew bible.. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=plfbxb0kkaycq2hf6jlccdn6z47ysyxscw.

i really liked the woman doing them and she had a lot of knowledge.

it does seem quite rare to have such university lectures available.

Heaven

Thank you for sharing this cobweb... I will add it to my list for viewing.

I think it's fascinating to compare what we have been told about the Bible versus actual origins and history. Many Christians haven't even read the Bible. Most of us have been maneuvered through this book by the religions we were/are a part of.

One big truth for me was discovering that this book is really a compilation of different writings by different authors, written over a period of 1000+ years and that NOT ONE author ever met Jesus.

Another one is Bart Ehrman's work on the comparative analysis of the 4 gospels. These 4 books form a large part of the Christian belief system. They were not written by Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. They were not written at the time the events occurred, but much later. And they contradict one another, so much so, that you come away with the conclusion that much of the foundation for the Christian religion is false.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNn7b_kz9dM

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What TV shows were forbidden in your JW household?

by Funchback in

in the u.s., three's company was not allowed.

it was explained to me that it was an immoral show because a man and women lived together and no one was married.

the sister who gave this observation was a family friend and we were newbies to the religion.. at least i somehow managed to watch the benny hill show undetected..

Heaven

MarkofCane said: Happy Days, that was a great show, The Fonz, 'hey', My mom would say he was a man slut. lol

MoC... 'man slut' ... yep, this is exactly the reason we were forbidden to watch it.

Funny enough, we were ok to watch Star Trek (the original series).

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What TV shows were forbidden in your JW household?

by Funchback in

in the u.s., three's company was not allowed.

it was explained to me that it was an immoral show because a man and women lived together and no one was married.

the sister who gave this observation was a family friend and we were newbies to the religion.. at least i somehow managed to watch the benny hill show undetected..

Heaven

Happy Days.

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Why Do Intelligent People Believe in God?

by cantleave in

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one of the most common thing thrown at atheists is - lots of intelligent people believe in god.

this darkmatter 2525's video is an excellent explanation as to why very logical people possess religious belief systems.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y201qzddzbg.

Heaven

I think many intelligent people believe because that is how they were raised and they have not yet been educated or had an experience that challenges that belief. For others, it is because belief offers them something that they have not found in the real world. For a certain time, belief can be comforting. But with no evidence to back it up, it is delusion and ultimately, creates disillusionment and distrust. I think it is difficult to go through life without something challenging your beliefs. For me, that began around the age of 10 due to the 1970s Ethiopian drought and famine.

Personally, I find it difficult to believe when what is claimed is not backed up by fact, evidence, or reality. To make a claim and then have something occur in opposition to that claim means, the claim is false. To continue to believe after this is intellectual dishonesty.