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  Photosynthesis and the problem with the creation story

  by purrpurr in

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  i just noticed in the bible that on day three, god created the plants and trees on the earth.... day four, god created the sun, moon and stars!

  so that means that the vegetation that is by its very nature dependant upon light to grow and photosynthesise was created a day before the sun that it needs to live!???.

  this gets even more strange when you factor in the jw exhuse that a day to god is like a thousand years.

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  A few years back I had a discussion with a couple of Christian support workers at my Dad's nursing home. I asked them "What would the Earth be like without the sun?" They had no clue. I told them "It would be a frozen hunk of rock with nothing living on it." I then said "But the Bible claims that plants were alive on the Earth before the sun was created. This is false. There is no way this could happen. " I was promptly told I was taking those scriptures in Genesis out of context. I asked them to explain how I was doing that. They could not.

  This is not the only instance in the Bible where our present day knowledge does not jive with Bronze and Iron Age Middle Eastern desert dwellers' understanding of the cosmos.

  
  
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  Anyone miss "Scholar" who used to post here? Found him!

  by sir82 in

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  ...in the jwtalk thread covering the september broadcast re: "generation".. http://jwtalk.net/forums/topic/22665-september-broadcast/page-5.

  poor neil, he comes on this forum, he gets hammered.. goes on the virulently pro-jw forum, gets hammered.. you'd almost think he was a troll.....no, couldn't be..... .

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  'Scholar' and 'JW'... definitely an oxymoron.
  
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  You tell me, does God give a damn?You tell me , do God give a damn?In one word. . .NO!

  by James Mixon in

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  2. bible

  2005...three billion people live on less than $2.50 a day.

  at least 80% of humanity lives on less.

  than $10.00 a day.

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  Theocratic War Strategy and Watchtower lawyer Vincent Toole...

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  remember brother toole's testimony to the royal commission that he was unaware of watchtower theocratic war doctrine, and that he didn't know what it means?

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  well wait until you read the letter i just posted on my blog: theocratic war strategy in action?

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  Vidiot, sometimes I think you can read my mind. ;0)

  Can this be sent to the ARC? Or have you already done so Marvin?
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  JW woman in Australia murdered by abusive husband

  by OrphanCrow in

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  *full article and video at link.

  gold coast mcdonalds shooting: victim had left abusive husband.

  stephen lock was a controlling and abusive husband who turned to drugs to try to level his volatile moods.. his wife karina, 49, was a devout jehovahs witness who, for religious reasons, stayed with him until she could take it no more.. friends of the couple have revealed details of their tumultuous relationship, which ended tragically in gunfire at a mcdonalds restaurant yesterday morning..

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  So much for these people living to a higher moral standard than everyone else.
  
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  Interesting Article: New human link found "Homo Naledi"

  by Splash in

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  haven't read it all yet, but 15 skeletons have been found in south africa, near jo'burg... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/11855405/homo-naledi-a-new-species-of-human-discovered-in-a-cave-in-south-africa.html.

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  You guys crack me up!
  
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  Interesting Article: New human link found "Homo Naledi"

  by Splash in

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  2. beliefs

  haven't read it all yet, but 15 skeletons have been found in south africa, near jo'burg... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/11855405/homo-naledi-a-new-species-of-human-discovered-in-a-cave-in-south-africa.html.

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  Very cool. I love this stuff! I would have to think that Africa would become like a Mecca of archeological digs once the DNA/genome project discovered that the 'homo' species line originated there.

  LOL @ Bonsai. But it is a legitimate question. IF Adam and Eve are only thought to be 6,000 years old, then 'original sin' did not exist before that time, hence, homo naledi would not qualify for needing a saviour or the church for that matter.

  I often pondered as a child those in the world that had never heard of Jesus. I knew people like this existed. Even today we are still discovering indigenous tribes people who have never had any close contact with the rest of the world. When you see aerial photographs of these people, they certainly don't look Christian, Jewish, or Islamic.
  
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  Good information to have when JWs and other bible-thumpers start appealing to the authority of the bible.

  by Island Man in

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp5ldeld_0o.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riipk-fxicc.

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  Island Man, thank you for posting this. I am glad to see another 'bible scholar' speaking out. Interesting that Hector was also an Evangelical Christian. So was Bart Ehrman. I hope more of them do this. Christians have been lied to and they need to know it.
  
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  Not one single head was lost on the wife birthday!!!!

  by James Mixon in

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  2. beliefs

  a surprised birthday party for the wife yesterday.

  we had no idea about the planned party.. the kids (wife daughter and husband) really surprised the wife and i. sunday morning a. truck pulled up and started unloading tents, tables and chairs.

  the son-in-law fired up the grill,.

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  Wait one second here James... you mentioned a grill. Was meat involved? If so, then some creature most certainly lost its head. Nice try though. (*snicker*)
  

  All kidding aside, sounds like it was an awesome party.
  
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  Solomon's Temple construction, things you realize when no longer asleep.

  by Crazyguy in

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  2. bible

  ok so in 1kings chapters 5-6 is where we have the story of the construction of solomon's most holy temple to god, the supreme god.

  it says that to build this magnificent temple they used 30,000 men, 10,000 per month.

  another 70,000 common laborers in the hills digging up stone and 80,000 stone cutting laborers.

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  So far, archeology has not been able to find the so-called 'vast' kingdoms of Solomon and David.