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  The JW religion has just cost me my marriage & my family life

  by jambon1 in

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  after leaving the organisation 10 years ago i fought with everything i had to stay in my marriage and with my three children.

  after a tumultuous number of years trying to maintain a happy family life while living in a divided home, it's finally over.

  the religion is single handedly responsible for destroying my marriage and my family.

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  It's incredibly sad.

  Ending of a marriage is one of the highest stressors anyone can experience. The effects are very similar to suffering from the death of a loved one.

  And I agree with GT... you were, are, and still can be a great Dad.
  
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  No More Money!

  by Hold Me-Thrill Me in

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  as of this june (i've already given my may contributions which are substantial) i am no longer giving money to support useless building projects that serve no good purpose.

  i am no longer giving money at conventions or assemblies.

  i am no longer giving money toward the circuit overseers upkeep.

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  Heaven

  If everyone stopped contributing to the Watchtower World Wide Pedophile Defense Fund, the Borg may actually go broke.

  Thanks for doing your part HMTM.
  
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  The JW religion has just cost me my marriage & my family life

  by jambon1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after leaving the organisation 10 years ago i fought with everything i had to stay in my marriage and with my three children.

  after a tumultuous number of years trying to maintain a happy family life while living in a divided home, it's finally over.

  the religion is single handedly responsible for destroying my marriage and my family.

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  jambon, I am very sorry about this. It is disgusting.
  

  Well done the JW religion! You have accomplished the division that your holy book brags about.

  This is 100% accurate. Anyone who doesn't agree, check out Matthew 10:35.
  
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  The flat earth conspiracy!

  by Truthexplorer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok. let me first start by saying i am not a flat earther.

  i like most on here will have the same view most will have here about our planet.

  in saying that however, i am incredibly gob smacked by the book written by eric dubay called 'the flat earth conspiracy'.

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  Heaven

  Yeah... and I've got a prime hunk of Florida (swamp) land available for sale.
  

  Check out Eratosthenes of Cyrene. Using a very simple technique, he figured out that the Earth's surface was curved. He is one of my heroes. :0)
  
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  Attention JW lurkers: May JW TV broadcast demonstrates the GB's utter contempt for you (and all non-elite JWs)

  by sir82 in

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  2. beliefs

  in may's "we will never solicit for money, but now we're going to solicit you for the next hour" broadcast, we kept hearing about all the "facts" that the gb would like for us to know.. hmm...what facts did they leave out?.

  -- $millions have been spent in out-of-court settlements of child abuse cases.

  -- $untold amounts are being spent on legal defense of wt policies related to child abuse.

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  "We will never solicit for money, but now we're going to solicit you for the next hour"

  sir82, this is exactly what struck me from the video.

  
  
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  If They Stopped Shunning Tomorrow?

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  imagine that the cult decided to stop shunning family members on the proviso that the dfd person was not actively trying to attack the cult.. (please don't debate whether or not this is likely - it's hypothetical).

  how would you respond to your family?.

  personally i think i would be less than cooperative.

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  KateWild said: A better question would be would you welcome with open arms a family member who had shunned you if they had just learned TTATT?

  If that family member apologized to me and wanted an open dialogue about TTATT then yes I would welcome them. If they wanted to try to control me, then no, I would not.
  
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  Rumor about the Imitate Jesus Convention

  by FusionTheism in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i saw a rumor a few weeks ago on reddit that the new imitate jesus convention is supposed to present new light and clarified understandings on the disfellowshipping/disassociation practices.. supposedly, if this rumor has any truth to it, there will be a talk given at the convention about how we should not be strict like the pharisees in how we shun people, loosening up some of the jw rules about this practice.. has anyone here heard anything about this or have more info on it?.

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  About this 'imitating Jesus' idea....

  I am completely uninterested in this. The guy is dead! I am not ready to be dead just yet.
  
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  If They Stopped Shunning Tomorrow?

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  imagine that the cult decided to stop shunning family members on the proviso that the dfd person was not actively trying to attack the cult.. (please don't debate whether or not this is likely - it's hypothetical).

  how would you respond to your family?.

  personally i think i would be less than cooperative.

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  IF they changed their policy and IF your family wanted to be your friend again how would you react?

  I would be cautiously optimistic. In reality, my life is very, very busy without them. I have more than enough family and friends I am in contact with regularly that, luckily, not having the JW family in my life (with the exception of my parents) hasn't affected me much, if at all.
  

  The JWs is my family are on my Mom's side. They have next to nothing to do with me except when necessary family business forces them to. They are overall nice people but are mislead.

  My parents became mean-spirited, self-righteous, holier-than-thou a-holes with us kids in their zealous days (this was during the 1990s). They did not shun us outright but they did withdraw somewhat during that period. Luckily, none of us kids ever got baptized.
  

  The JW belief that they are "God's Chosen'', which elevates them above everyone else, would probably surface repeatedly with my other JW family members as it used to with my parents. I would not be able to tolerate that.
  
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  I asked where is the proof?

  by disillusioned 2 in

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  2. beliefs

  arguing with my husband again, i asked where is the proof that jesus looked down on earth in 1919 and chose a small group of bible students in america apart from them saying it in their magazines.

  also where is the proof that satan and his demons were cast down in 1914 just because first world war started.

  neither of these things are in the bible only in their magazines.

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  LHS123 said: who knew to be a JW we had to put our brains on the shelf?

  This is the requirement for all religion. In order to have faith, one must leave reason and logic behind. Evidence and the demand for such are religion's nemesis.
  
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  "I cant wait to meet Abraham!"

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  2. beliefs

  "i can't wait to meet abraham" was the eager comment made by a young 7 year old witness girl.. when asked why, she said "because he was jehovahs friend, and he was even willing to kill his own son!".

  this comment was said with joy and excitement!

  she can't see the obvious issues with this?.

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  Abraham... the same guy who committed adultery with his house servant in order to get a child. Then booted her and her child into the desert. Yeah, I so want to me this a-hole too... NOT!