how many of you have heard this one, or words to that effect?.
I've heard Witnesses say things like this before. Usually it was a complaint about "book smarts" or "fancy philosophizing".
Still, I know plenty of very smart people who are still Witnesses. I think they just switch it off before they go to the meetings.
my mom emailed me and asked if they could come to town and go to our district convention with us.
i politley said no thank you we wont be attending.
we havent been to meeting in a long long time.
My Dad and other Witness friends and relatives do this to me all of the time. I find it embarassing how obvious they are. Do they really think that they are being subtle or discreet? Inevitably, the interesting tidbit they have to share is some recycled piece of speculation or phony insight. I always wonder how they can find these things to be fascinating. Is that really the kind of stuff that blows their mind? This drives me crazy.
below is a pretty well done report on the russian situation.. http://www.russiatoday.com/top_news/2009-07-13/will_jehovah_s_witnesses_be_banned_in_russia.html.
isaac.
I wouldn't be surprised if Jehovah's Witnesses were banned in Russia.
I would be interested to hear what everyone thinks about this.
Is a ban on Jehovah's Witnesses a step forward?
from historical record of other cults, how do the majority of them end?.
is it usually with great fanfare?
(like jonestown).
Shakers just died out...today there are no Shakers.
It seems there are still some Shakers in the United States.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakers#Modern-day_Shakers
Notice that the Shakers were already down to only 12 members in 1920. As of 2008 there are still at 4.
jabberwock
i thought i would share some highlights from an interesting questions from readers (wt 52 6/15) that i recently cam across:.
why does not the watchtower society publish simplified material for parents to use in teaching their children bible truths?a question based upon frequent inquiries by readers.. .
...but from this we may not argue that the faithful and discreet slave class must publish special books for children.
The point I was trying to make was that this particular article is strongly indicates that the WTBTS purposely does not publish simplified material for children, yet it has since published several books for that express purpose.
The first book for children that I could find was Listening to the Great Teacher (1971). Shortly thereafter came the book Youth—Getting the Best out of It (1976), and My Book of Bible Stories (1978).
I have never read the book Children (1941), but the circumstances of its release suggest that it was written for children. Rutherford announced the books release during a district convention talk where all of the young ones sat up close and around the stage. Each child in attendance was personally given a copy.
Of course, this is by no means the most significant change of position. I think to call it hypocrisy might be a little strong. Still, the article goes out of its way to authoritatively state that publishing such material is unnecessary and inappropriate according to scriptural precedent. I would think that they could just as easily have said, "It's a good idea, but we're too busy working on stuff for adults. Maybe sometime in the future." I suppose such a response wouldn't work because it would reveal that the president and the other bosses in Brooklyn hadn't thought of everything.
jabberwock
i thought i would share some highlights from an interesting questions from readers (wt 52 6/15) that i recently cam across:.
why does not the watchtower society publish simplified material for parents to use in teaching their children bible truths?a question based upon frequent inquiries by readers.. .
...but from this we may not argue that the faithful and discreet slave class must publish special books for children.
I thought I would share some highlights from an interesting Questions from Readers (wt 52 6/15) that I recently cam across:
Why does not the Watchtower Society publish simplified material for parents to use in teaching their children Bible truths?—A question based upon frequent inquiries by readers.
...But from this we may not argue that the “faithful and discreet slave” class must publish special books for children. The priests in Israel did not write special scrolls for the children to study...None of the sixty-six books of the Bible were written specially for children. From infancy Timothy was taught by his grandmother Lois and his mother Eunice, not from some child’s study book, but from the Holy Scriptures... The typical theocracy in Israel provided no simplified study material for children. Neither was such provision made in the days of Jesus and the apostles. None need be made now. Adapting the material to the child’s mental capacities is the parent’s assignment from God.
jabberwock
i just read our newest member's, borghater, post.
i love the word he used, borganisation, and i wonder if we can come with some more "borg" names and words.. have at it.
it's all in fun.. josie.
flipper, aren't the words Borgication, Borgdultery, Borgsexuality, and Borgiality all derived from the Greek word borg'eia?
jabberwock
has anyone who has attended a district convention this year seen any protestors or demonstrators?.
have you ever protested or demonstrated or maybe even handed out literature at a convention or assembly?
what happened?
Has anyone who has attended a district convention this year seen any protestors or demonstrators?
Have you ever protested or demonstrated or maybe even handed out literature at a convention or assembly? Do you know anyone who has?
What happened? What was it like?
jabberwock
it's safe to say that in most instances, it appears that the catalyst for the final move away from jw's, the real start of a road toward a jw exit, is something that affected you personally, whether that was you or a loved one/family member.
we hit our personal bs level, can't take it anymore,.
then we start to examine the flaws of jw dogma.. i would suggest that most do not start a jw exit because they examine the dogma on a personal study project and find out that something isn't right.
I could not help but think of how Jehovah's Witnesses sometimes say that a person may need to experience the loss of a loved one or some other tragedy, a "personal hell" if you will, before they are willing to consider the message. I think this effect is exactly what you are describing.
Sometimes I feel that I had to become "spiritually weak" before I was able to question, doubt, and finally disbelieve. It involved serious thought, earnest prayer, and deep agonizing. Unfortunately, a Witness would see it simply as someone become weaker and weaker until they finally collapse and surrender to temptation and imperfection.
jabberwock
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"New World" instead of "New Order"? What's the difference?
And if I remember correctly at least some of the songs will be available online (jw.org) on September 1st as well.
jabberwock
