Bane you worry me. I do not mind you arguing your point (as long as you attempt to make your argument logical) however what you have posted in this thread is nothing more than name calling and illogical rhetoric. Surely you can make a more concise coherent argument in defense of your position. I pride myself as being open minded. So please, logically present your beliefs. Only those who are loosing an intellectual argument must resort to name calling. It demonstrates a lack of true conviction in your beliefs if you can not defend them in a logical manner. By the way using circular reasoning is a hallmark of one who lacks the knowledge to defend his position.
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Bane admits that Christians are to abstain from "eating blood".
by moshe infrom an earlier topic-.
"moshe, ready for another biblical smackdown?.
christians.
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I'm curious...
by JediMaster indid anyone here claim to be of the anointed and partook of the emblems at memorial when you were still a witness???
if so, was there really a force telling you, you were special and would go to heaven?
or was it more so overjoy at how spritual you though you were?
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I don't have to accuse them in a court of law since they have already lost a case in court regarding fraud and their sale of ‘Miracle Wheat . So yes I am prepared to go to court if they are willing to challange my allegation of the fraud they commited in this example since definitive proof is already been accepted in a court of law. I told you to be careful how you answered. Ray never claimed he was not making any money from his book (hence no financial fraud) The witnesses under Russell made fraudulent claims about this wheat for financial gain. You don't believe me? Here is an article in a brooklyn paper detailing what happened.
Miracle Wheat
$1 Per Pound
The Eagle’s story, based on an ad Russell placed in his Watch Tower publication for wheat seed the growth of which would supposedly be miraculous, was a sensation but resulted in a lawsuit — one that the Eagle won! This is a reprint of the article in part:“After the ‘work’ had been well started here, ‘Pastor’ Russell’s Watch Tower publication advertised wheat seed for sale at $1.00 a pound [quite expensive in those days].
“It was styled ‘Miracle Wheat,’ and it was asserted that it would grow five times as much as any other brand of wheat.
“There were other claims made for the wheat seed, and the followers were advised to purchase it, the proceeds to go to the Watch Tower and be used in publishing the ‘pastor’s’ sermons.
“The Eagle first made public the facts about these new ventures of the Russellites and it published a cartoon picturing the ‘Pastor’ and his ‘Miracle Wheat’ in such a way that ‘Pastor’ Russell brought suit for libel, asking $100,000 damages.
“Government departments investigated the wheat for which $1.00 a pound was asked, and agents of the Government were important witnesses at the trial of the libel suit in January, 1913.
“The ‘Miracle Wheat’ was low in the Government tests, they said. The Eagle won the suit.” Relevant articles appeared in The Brooklyn Daily Eagle in the month of January 1913. The titles and their dates were:
1/1: Miracle Wheat Scandal
1/22: Testimony of Russelite Beliefs
1/23-24: Testimony on ‘Miracle Wheat’
1/25: Financial statements proving Russell’s absolute control were made by [Watch Tower] Secretary-Treasurer Van Amberg who was quoted as saying, “… We are not responsible to anyone for our expenditures. We are responsible only to God.”Russell’s 99%
Some Jehovah’s Witnesses these days may wish to minimize the significance of the “Miracle Wheat” claiming that the profits from its sales went to the Watchtower Society and not to Russell himself. However the records show that Russell owned 990 of the 1,000 shares of Watchtower Society stock. By this figure, 99% of every “contribution” for Miracle Wheat” was in effect a contribution to Russell himself. -
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by JediMaster indid anyone here claim to be of the anointed and partook of the emblems at memorial when you were still a witness???
if so, was there really a force telling you, you were special and would go to heaven?
or was it more so overjoy at how spritual you though you were?
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debator Ray never denied that he made a profit from his books, I can respect his honesty . Can the wbts also claim to have never engaged in financial fraud? Careful please be honest
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I'm curious...
by JediMaster indid anyone here claim to be of the anointed and partook of the emblems at memorial when you were still a witness???
if so, was there really a force telling you, you were special and would go to heaven?
or was it more so overjoy at how spritual you though you were?
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lol debator you are the ultimate hypocrite the wbts has been making mony off books that ray franz wrote for years ie aid book. Yet you haave the nerve to cast doubt on his sincerity when he attempts to make a living after the organazation that made cash off of him gets rid of him without even giving him a pension?
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JW Home study
by wiser incan anyone tell me how long the jw homestudy lasts.
we are already going on a year and a half, and thank god i have not been converted yet.
i am sick of hearing their version of the bible.
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Since 5/18/2010Hi Wiser
2 Thessalonians 3:14
If anyone does not obey our instruction in this letter, take special note of him. Do not associate with him, in order that he may feel ashamed.This is from the NIV what is Paul saying here?
Hi sharah
Jesus told his apostles to wipe their feet from the dust of those that didn't believe. The apostles told us the following about unbelievers.
2 Corinthians 6:14
Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?Interesting debator you use these two scriptures to justify not associating with unbelievers, yet you frequently engage in debate/ associate with us on this board. Rather hypocritical of you !!!
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Interesting experience on SL...JeHOvah's Witness and I have an encounter
by mindmelda ini go to a women's discussion group on sl, second life, which is a virtual community where you do all sorts of things, including entertainment, discussion groups, media, and just socializing through the use of animated avatars which can be quite realistically human or whatever you want them to be, really, aliens, elves, dragons, vampires, etc.. anyway, a woman there brought to the discussion a situation where she had her real life husband wants to divorce her for a witness woman he had met..and get this...she had come to his door after the couple separated and offered him a bible study, and apparently instead, it turned into a romance and then, according to the woman, her husband and this woman are hitting the sheets.
(you're not supposed to call on the opposite sex alone, and do doubt this is one reason...too many lonely witness women who'd jump on the first piece of dude they meet!
lol).
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you have a pm
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Watchtower Ambulance????
by OnTheWayOut ini never heard of it nor ever saw such a picture before.
let's see who can come up with the funniest caption for one of these photos:.
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I work at the closest hospital to Bethel and have seen the ambulance many times. Interesting side point one of the Dr,s who agreed to to bloodless surgury, on a witness from bethel ,was actually sued for post surgical complications. He vowed never to agree to treat another witness .
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Most Ridiculous Thing You've Ever Been Counseled On
by MrFreeze ini'm sure topics like this have already come up but they tend to get hilarious with the absolute absurdity that goes on in the kh.
i was once counseled for not shaving after two days.
i was also counseled by a sister for eating lucky charms cereal.
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very interesting since nowhere in the dictionary is the scum described as what the co contended it was. Perhaps he was just afflicted with a dirty mind.
Main Entry: 1 scum Pronunciation: \ ' sk?m\ Function: noun Etymology: Middle English, from Middle Dutch schum; akin to Old High German scum foam Date: 14th century1 a: extraneous matter or impurities risen to or formed on the surface of a liquid often as a foul filmy covering — compare pond scum 2 b: the scoria of metals in a molten state :drossc: a slimy film on a solid or gelatinous object
2 a:refuseb: a low, vile, or worthless person or group of people— scum·my \ ' sk?-me\ adjective
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A riddle my brother gave me today
by bohm ina man has 2 children.
he tells you one is a boy born on a tuesday.
what is the probability the other is a boy to?.
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1 Boy, Boy
2 Boy, Girl
3 Girl, Boy
4 Girl, Girl <-- this is the only case that is excluded
there is a problem with your logic gl , 2 and 3 are equal solutions hence 1 there are only two possible solutions, this makes it a 50 % chance of it being 2 boys
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A terrible situation, I need all the help I can get
by lola28 ini dont know if ive posted this before but here it goes.
my sisters step dad has a nice who well call roxy for now, ive known this kid since she was two and she and my sister grew up together.
roxys mom is a walking disaster; she has five kids all by different fathers (has had at least two abortions), has never worked a day in her life and im pretty sure she does drugs, and probably sells them too, however i cant prove it.
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as far as proving statutory rape all that need be required is a dna match with the `18 yr old boy friend and the baby. proving abuse will be much more difficult,