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GB sidles out of 1919 and puts 1914 in the bin. (WT study.)!!

by hamsterbait in

has anybody noticed in many recent watchtowers that christ is now said to have "turned his attention to the earth in 1914.".

unlike the 60's they do not say christ "came" in 1914. the "proclaimers book " p137 says the bible students came to discern that "christ did not return, (even invisibly), in 1914.".

the way is now paved.

Bring_the_Light

Oh, Mouthy should wait for these references.

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GB sidles out of 1919 and puts 1914 in the bin. (WT study.)!!

by hamsterbait in

has anybody noticed in many recent watchtowers that christ is now said to have "turned his attention to the earth in 1914.".

unlike the 60's they do not say christ "came" in 1914. the "proclaimers book " p137 says the bible students came to discern that "christ did not return, (even invisibly), in 1914.".

the way is now paved.

Bring_the_Light

WHOA!!!

Mouthy can be re-instated now, wee!!!!

We'll miss you dear, I wish I could have gotten to know you better. From what I can tell, you're the coolest super-old person I know (that's still alive).

Run on back to your congregation, up on stage during a Sunday talk and yell "BOOYAH" for me. Get it on video and YouTube it, whole nine yards, this is your time to shine.

Bring_the_Light

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OMG!!!!! How do they think they will get away with this... June 15 WT

by ImFreeatlast in

i was just looking through the june 15 study wt and on page 9 at the bottem of paragraph 10 it says.... additional "disgusting things" include acts of pedophilia and other forms of sexual immorality committed by clergymen and tolerated by the church authorities.

is it any wonder that jehovah god will soon rid this earth of false religion?.

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Bring_the_Light

Jehovah God will soon rid this earth of false religion?

Woo! I've got a biblical prophesy I can believe in now! Woo! Woo!

I'm a believer.

Bring_the_Light

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District Conventions are awful if you have kids. (Learn why!)

by easyreader1970 in

jw
friends

i know that many of you have not been to distric conventions in some time, but what i am about to describe is a recent trend.. 1. more people than seats.

for the past six or seven years, they've tried cramming too many congregations into one convention hall at one time.

in many cases, if you do not get to the convention more than an hour before the program starts and you need more than a couple of seats, you cannot find seats.

Bring_the_Light

Oh yeah, if you are baptized in any christian faith, you can take communion

AND they have treats! Booyah! Even a Witless baptism? I never did that, so do Episto...alphabet's (spelling?) do a sprinkle or a dunk?

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District Conventions are awful if you have kids. (Learn why!)

by easyreader1970 in

jw
friends

i know that many of you have not been to distric conventions in some time, but what i am about to describe is a recent trend.. 1. more people than seats.

for the past six or seven years, they've tried cramming too many congregations into one convention hall at one time.

in many cases, if you do not get to the convention more than an hour before the program starts and you need more than a couple of seats, you cannot find seats.

Bring_the_Light

OOOH! A religion where you don't have to believe? Daaamn! These are my kind of people.
Ever see those signs at the city limits: The Episcopal Church Welcomes You? They mean it.
They don't believe the bible we have today is necessarily all inspired. They don't all believe you have to be chrisitan to have a good everlasting life. They use reason, tradition and scripture, but they recognize people can and have tampered with scripture with a view to control.
I grew up in the Episcopal church and wish my sister had never influenced me to study with the witnesses. I don't think you have to go to any church. I go for the connection to my childhood. I go for the spiritual feelings I get there. I like the intelligence of most of the people who attend. It's a beautiful service and they don't try to shove doctrine down anyone's throat.

Sounds like a deal!!! Even better than the crazy-ass church retreat I went to to get a day off from Army Basic Training. I "got saved" forever and ever and ever no matter what I do (we presumed including any such unpleasantness as we may encounter in the Army) in exchange for nodding. They said to say "yes" I nodded, it stuck, they aren't even strict on the instructions about "how" to get saved it seems. Pretty slick, except it required being in the presense of some pretty insane backwater smelly people from nowhere in Missouri (Mizurah). That kind of customer service with people who aren't scary-nuts and toothless would be a trip! I'm going to an Episcopalianish Church next Sunday. (does my standing nod stick or do I need to nod again for these people?, not sure if credits transfer etc, but no biggy)

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Satan overkill

by Switch in

i remember in my teen years thinking about the constant warnings of satan "transforming himself into an angel of light" and wondering how in the world did i stand a chance against a demon?!

a demon thats had thousands of years to suss things out and trick people in various different ways without them even knowing.

he led angels to rebellion.

Bring_the_Light

I thought it was my own weakness and doubt in my abilities at the time but maybe I've had an underlying doubt in the Society the entire time? The constant reminders that Satan is stalking us like a lion and reading quotes from the WTS, like the above, has pretty much cured me of any religious inclinations. Has anyone else felt like me?

*grunt* yes

Bring_the_Light

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Be honest. Would having more money make you happier?

by nicolaou in

jw
friends

it's not that simple of course but i would certainly appreciate the freedom and time that cash in the bank would give me.

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how about you?.

Bring_the_Light

I'm not rich, but I'm single and theoretically could support a wife and 4 kids on what I earn. I actually feel a little guilty about it. Plus I'm making close to 100 grand in a stock deal that closes later this year. I don't feel like I deserve that either.

Money doesn't buy happiness, it buys options and freedom. The real "worth" of money is feeling like you deserve it. A well earned paycheck "feels" good. I know a lot of independantly wealthy people on Prozac, they're happy, I guess.

The moral of this story is to keep your mind open about such things. Money is a tool. Living your life well creates happiness. The two are not fungible goods.

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District Overseer comments at CA reveal GB out of answers...

by still_in74 in

so 2 weeks ago i went to my 2 day ca.. this had lots of interesting tid-bits, like the wt summary of the generation change.

the conductor said that if we were listeing to jesus speak we would have known he was speaking about us!

then he followed with "and thats probably what they understood too" - i couldnt believe he actually said probably.. anyway, at the end of sunday the do came about and went into a bit about all the things the org has done for us.

Bring_the_Light

This speaker reminds me so much of my PO. One time he made me feel guilty for treating the meetings like a social gathering (it wasn't aimed at me in particular- at least I don't think). "After all, there is more to the meetings than that," he said. "It's God's spirit-directed organization!" I agreed at the time. But now I realize- hey it's just a social gathering!

I can't get over this. HOW STUPID they were for ACTUALLY DISCOURAGING socializing. About 99% of the emotional trauma I endured as a kid was being made to feel guilty about having "worldly" friends, and THEN being made guilty for having "acceptible" friends. Whomever makes the rules for this organization clearly has multiple diagnosable mental disorders. Social Anxiety disorder, depression, Autism, was clearly not the cool kid in school, etc etc etc. Its pretty screwed up to have a happy exclusive cult that punishes by expulsion when there isn't any reason to want to be in it in the first place. Geez. Again, I'd be a wayy better cult leader.

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District Conventions are awful if you have kids. (Learn why!)

by easyreader1970 in

jw
friends

i know that many of you have not been to distric conventions in some time, but what i am about to describe is a recent trend.. 1. more people than seats.

for the past six or seven years, they've tried cramming too many congregations into one convention hall at one time.

in many cases, if you do not get to the convention more than an hour before the program starts and you need more than a couple of seats, you cannot find seats.

Bring_the_Light

Grown people--grown people--are running through the place, briefcases and purses swinging, trying to find seats.
If I'm gonna die, I'll get killed trying to get into a Who concert with festival seating.
Take your kids to your local Episcopal Church. They have nurseries for the little ones. They have Sunday school. They have crayons, coloring books and toys for the children you wish to bring into the service. They don't mind if you kids lie on the floor, sit on their knees in the pew, pile up the prayer cushions like building blocks, sing when it's not time to sing, cry, talk, babble or whatever. They love kids and they all will tell you it's a healthy place for children. They don't have big conventions they expect you to break the bank to attend. They never try to scare you and they don't care if you believe what they are saying.

OOOH! A religion where you don't have to believe? Daaamn! These are my kind of people. I'd probably still be a JW if one could get by without believing (or faking it). I'm smart and honest, never cut out for the JW lifestyle.

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Thomas Paine "Age of Reason"

by BurnTheShips in

on another thread purporting to start a discussion of this work, some suggested that it be restarted in a new thread, as the consideration there had begun in a polluted way and had only stayed at that level.

since things poorly begun usually end worse, i am starting the thread as some have requested.

i am currently beginning to read age of reason, and will return to it from time to time as time itself allows.

Bring_the_Light

Writers, politicians, and philosophers were quite brilliant 200 years ago. Imagine if a national figure wrote like that today??!!!

Indeed, this is why I have the one true religion. I'm a proponent of the the ideas of the founders of the United States and pretty much an agnostic about everything else. Come to the light, and be saved.

"The enlightenment" was, in my opinion, a time of intense intellectual explosion far greater and far more important than any other Renaissance, anywhere, ever. I love the United States because it is founded on reason.

Bring_the_Light (and HOOAH!)

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