Posts by Finkelstein

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My email to JW Following Trolley Conversation

by cofty in

a few weeks ago i had an really interesting conversation with three male jws who were loitering around a trolley at the west end of princes street in edinburgh.. i managed to completely avoid giving any hint about my jw past and focussed on why they thought the bible was a reliable moral guide.

i used the subject of slavery to illustrate my concerns.. one of the three was in his early twenties, knew a lot about his own beliefs but nothing about the real life and it was difficult to get through his thought-bubble.

the second one was in his 60s and not very bright.

Finkelstein

and wonder where human civilization had been without slavery as the backbone.

So your saying that human slavery helped to advance humanity in improving its over all sociological behavior ?

Religions and their established set of beliefs have been a form of mental and social slavery and many times have been responsible for crippling humanity in improving the life of humans.

Religions have been responsible in the avocation of human ignorance since humans involved themselves in supernatural beliefs.

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Greta Thunberg, Worse than Plague

by Simon in

so greta thunberg thinks the world pollutes too much.

specifically, the parts of the world that pollute the least and have the cleanest industries.

she doesn't seem to care about india or china who are the biggest polluters by far.. "how dare they".

Finkelstein

So one teenager who spouts off about protecting the world's environment is worse than a killing plague ?

Keeping the environment clean could also involve the human consumption of animals as a food source which has actually caused deadly viruses to effect humans in recent years.

I agree though that Greta needs to travel to India and China and spread the awareness of planet's environment to those countries which we are biologically connected to.

A sick polluted planet makes sick humans.

The planet is now trying to fight its own attacking virus which humans are deliberately responsible for.

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The Coronavirus Is Trump’s Fault!

by minimus in

jw
friends

yes, it’s donald trump’s problem and he has no idea of how to take care of this!

and he gets his vp mike pence to oversee this situation.

donald trump doesn’t care about who could get this virus.

Finkelstein

If any of you ever read my posts I’m very pro trump so yes it was sarcastic.

And since most political leaders see Trump's presidency a hoax its only appropriate to make a topic thread a sarcastic hoax.

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Circuit Overseer to Answer My Questions + Concerns...or Not

by Research in

hello all, i'm 'researching', a jw who is in the first steps of taking a look at their beliefs.. i've semi-recently (about a couple weeks ago) heard about the sexual abuse cases (pennsylvania attorney general’s investigation request) and then the arc in 2015. this lead to a deep investigation, which lead to many questions arising.

a jw friend of mine suggested i be careful (due to apostates) and ask the brothers.

so i typed up my questions + concerns and emailed an elder my mother has known for a long time.

Finkelstein

By the way trying to draw out factual information that may some way be demeaning or damaging toward "The" organization by its own supporting members like the elders or CO's, will only result in a prearranged scripted answer that may actually be full of lies and half truths.

For example recently a GB member A Morris gave a talk discussing the recent accusations of the organization concealing incidences of pedophilia, he said " Well we didn't know that child sexaul abuse was a unlawful crime.

Lying to protect the image of the organization is a constant plying endeavor with its engaged members, its expected and encouraged for all, from the very top GB members down .

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Circuit Overseer to Answer My Questions + Concerns...or Not

by Research in

hello all, i'm 'researching', a jw who is in the first steps of taking a look at their beliefs.. i've semi-recently (about a couple weeks ago) heard about the sexual abuse cases (pennsylvania attorney general’s investigation request) and then the arc in 2015. this lead to a deep investigation, which lead to many questions arising.

a jw friend of mine suggested i be careful (due to apostates) and ask the brothers.

so i typed up my questions + concerns and emailed an elder my mother has known for a long time.

Finkelstein

Research all you have to do is stop going and shut up about the religion altogether, its activities and doctrines to your mother or whoever..

Being that your baptized the door is now open to those elders to disfellowship at your congregation , based upon being an opposing apostate.

These elders like to do that because it reasserts their own elevated power and its a show of loyalty to Jehovah for themselves and his earthly organization.

They are going to try and hurt you to their digression, only if you let them.

The qestion is are going to let them ?

They will try to lure you into saying something and guilt you out at the same time in the process.

The correct answer and objective is to simply say your going to keep your findings and decision personal to yourself. .......and be poignantly firm about that !

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Do you think there will be panic buying of food, guns ect?

by JimmyYoung in

i wonder if there will be panic buying of food, guns, gas ect due to the corona virus.

what do you guys think?.

Finkelstein

I think we are far from that theological situation.

Did someone watch too many doomsday movies or read Watchtower magazines.?

Unfortunately apocalyptic doomsday religoius cults like the JWS push people away from being balanced in thought and emotions.

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Avatar

by Verenda in

how do i change my avatar?

i have tried uploading an image but nothing seems to be working.. thanks.

Finkelstein

NewLight message Simon , he may be able to help you out, he's the owner of the site

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Coronavirus / Covid-19 - The canary in the coal mine

by JimmyYoung in

is anyone prepping by buying food that has a long shelf life?

i have been messing with it for years.

buying fat free powder milk, bullion cubes, rice, beans dried, and other things that has a shelf life of 25 years.

Finkelstein

Jimmy Young says ......

My brother makes fun of me and asks if I have seen black helicopters but its not a matter of if but when.

So JY are you suffering from a form of paranoia of some kind ?

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Coronavirus / Covid-19 - The canary in the coal mine

by JimmyYoung in

is anyone prepping by buying food that has a long shelf life?

i have been messing with it for years.

buying fat free powder milk, bullion cubes, rice, beans dried, and other things that has a shelf life of 25 years.

Finkelstein

Its always practical to have substances to live off from if there is a environmental calamity such as earthquake, floods, storms etc.

So yes I store nonperishable food items, water, a cooking devise, candles, a first aid kit, backup battery packs for cell phones, a portable generator for home appliances or whatever.

Having some cash stored away too is advisable for if the electricity goes down so does the debit card / credit card buying capability which you may have to have to buy things.

This absolutely has nothing to do with the fear mongering aspects coming from the JWS religion, this is based upon reality of facts and consequences.

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When many of the GB are dead in 10 years

by HiddenPimo in

what will be their new plan?.

Finkelstein

Yes, it's known as "the sunk-cost fallacy": The more you have invested in something, the more sacrifices you have made for it, the less likely you will objectively evaluate it and the more likely you will feel more convinced about it because the alternative view that you are wrong is too horrible to live with.

Well said Steve2

The top GB men will bullshit up something as they always have done in an effort to keep the organization on going and realistically part of that is for themselves.

Going back to people such as J Rutherford and the men who followed him these were the men who had so much to gain out the organization than anyone else, so one should assume the reasons and drive behind their individual efforts.