In 1995 it became clear that they were making it up as they went along. Up till that time I believed they had a shot.
DNCall
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Remember 1992?
by Tobyjones262 inanyone remember 1992?
i can remember i was in the cult.
times were changing at a rapid pace.
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Child sexual abuse suspect arrested in T.O.
by Tahoe inhttps://www.vcstar.com/story/news/2018/12/13/child-sexual-abuse-suspect-arrested-t-o/2305199002/ .
a 69-year-old thousand oaks man facing multiple sexual abuse charges by the ventura county district attorney’s office was arrested last week, authorities said.. steven skyler abbott was arrested dec. 6 after months of investigation into the reported sexual abuse of two thousand oaks girls, according to the ventura county sheriff’s office.
in november, the ventura county district attorney’s office filed multiple felony sexual abuse charges against abbott, including two counts of continuous sexual abuse, one count of lewd acts upon a child and one count of forcible lewd acts upon a child.. he is also facing multiple felony enhancements and special allegations related to his charges.. the investigation began in september, when the sheriff’s agency received a report of suspected child crimes.. a 16-year-old victim alleged that she was sexually abused by abbott when she was between the ages of 5 and 11, sheriff’s officials said.. sexual assault unit detectives subsequently identified a second, 24-year-old victim who reported that abbott had abused her when she was between the ages of 3 and 7, authorities said.. the sheriff’s agency said the victims and their families had come into contact with abbott through the kingdom hall of jehovah’s witnesses in newbury park.. investigators submitted their findings to prosecutors, who filed felony sexual abuse charges against abbot on nov. 16, officials said.. on nov. 28, an arrest warrant was issued for abbott.. the suspect was eventually arrested at his home on dec. 6 and booked into ventura county jail.
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DNCall
I am getting in touch with an exJW whose JW sister spent some weeks living with the Abbot family while she rebelling from from her JW parents. This girl is now about 34, married and still a Witness. Abbot may have left her alone but in case he molested her, she needs to know about the authorities' invitation to come forward.
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What are your favorite musical scores in film?
by LoveUniHateExams inhi guys!.
this thread is at least partly inspired by blondie's classical music thread.. i'm not particularly a musical person but i do appreciate good scores in film.. what are your favorites?.
here's a well-known movie score i like .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btdleusg9ew .
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DNCall
DOFP: He's not in music but he owns the rights to his grandfather's biography and has been negotiating for a film based on Korngold's life.
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What are your favorite musical scores in film?
by LoveUniHateExams inhi guys!.
this thread is at least partly inspired by blondie's classical music thread.. i'm not particularly a musical person but i do appreciate good scores in film.. what are your favorites?.
here's a well-known movie score i like .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btdleusg9ew .
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DNCall
DOFP: Eric Wolfgang Korngold's grandson is on this board!
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Simple Question:Why Won’t JWs Just Report Child Abuse As The Law Requires?
by minimus ini just don’t get it.
it would make their life so much easier!.
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DNCall
Prompted by [my] girl next door, the promotion of the organization despite dire consequences to individuals has been in practice since it was devised by Rutherford. As long as the 1914/1918/1919 dates are part of Witness theology (wherein Jesus selected Rutherford and Co.), the GB will continue to follow this practice, as did Knorr/Franz and GB 1.0. Overall, Rutherford’s approach is still profitable. As soon as it’s not, you can expect New Light.
The good news is that each year this practice is being exposed more and more. As a result, it is proving to be less and less profitable.
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You Bet Your Life
by DNCall init is said that life is a gamble.
when you join a religion, you are wagering some portion of your life.
you may choose not to risk too much.
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DNCall
It is said that life is a gamble.
When you join a religion, you are wagering some portion of your life. You may choose not to risk too much. A nominal association with a low-demand religion is a safe bet—minimum outlay with the hope of an afterlife. But, if you want to go all in, I would recommend Jehovah’s Witnesses. Once you have accepted and embraced their beliefs, they demand total sacrifice, submission and unquestioning obedience to Jehovah God and His earthly organization. It is a case of forfeiting a comfortable life at present for the possibility of having a future unending life on a paradise earth, or for a relative few, immortality in heaven.
When religion is not a part of your life, you simply live your life. You are not conforming your life to the demands of an alleged higher power in order to experience an afterlife.
People of faith argue that atheists, humanists and the like have no hope for the future. Not true.
For those without religion, there can be hope and (better still) planning for the future of their present life—the only life that is certain. Absent religion, one can still hope for an afterlife—something that, for all we know, may naturally occur. For yet others, like physicist Stephen Hawking, an afterlife is not desired. Hawking was content with the richness of inquiry and discovery he experienced during his lifetime. It was enough for him.
Perhaps it is more correct to say that life offers opportunities to gamble rather than to say life is a gamble. Most try to navigate these opportunities knowingly and wisely. However, going all in with your entire life, given the stakes and alternatives, is not a smart bet. More to the point, it is a grievous waste of life.
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Only Jehovah's Witnesses
by Vanderhoven7 inwhat do you think of this rant?.
“jehovah's witnesses are the only true religion.
this is demonstrated by a slew of true teachings that only jehovah could have revealed to his servants on earth.
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DNCall
Your seasoned Witness quoted the Watchtower magazine not the Bible. Just because the Watchtower articles cited are peppered with Bible references doesn't mean that these references support the Witnesses' inbred interpretation. It is a case of going beyond what is written and dressing it up or camoflaging it with Bible references. He's turning to the Watchtower for support, not the Bible.
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My impressions of the cart witnessing
by Sour Grapes ini have watched tons of youtube videos of our exjdub friends approaching and talking to the jdub manikins at their carts as they give a great witness to the world by sipping their hot lattes, updating their social media, chit chatting to each other, and the most important thing of getting their time in, counting their hours.. when the jw's see someone approach with a camera they do several things, they will turn their backs on the person, or look at the person with a frown and act like the person isn't even there.
the witlesses refuse to answer simple, clear, and precise questions.
when i was an elder i loved to get into discussions and debates with trinitarians, priest, clergymen and those who were born again.
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DNCall
As I understand it, the public preaching work is still carried out by the majority in much the same way as it always has. There are still preaching demonstrations on the service meeting along with public engagement skills being taught in the ministry school.
Only a select few in each congregation qualify for the "privilege" of cart witnessing. My impression is that apart from the public ministry, the main purpose of cart witnessing is the promotion of the website, hence little public engagement.
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Early 70's JW POP Music: All Over, No wonder. By: The Great Crowd
by I quit! ingoing through a box of old records in my garage i came across this 45 by the great crowd.
it was given to me in the early 70's when i was living in crestline, ca.
i had no way of playing it because i haven't had a turntable in years so i googled it and found this link.
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DNCall
Hi all. Haven't posted in a while but couldn't pass this up.
I was in that group. I played piano, sax and wrote the arrangements. The group was led by Phil Volk ("Fang" of Paul Revere and the Raiders). He wrote both songs. The group consisted of Phil singing lead and playing bass, three guitars, drums, five background singers, three horns, organ and piano. All were Witnesses and were indeed a "Great Crowd." Too many in my opinion, based on the theory that you are only as strong as your weakest link.
The record was released by my father on his record label, Lute Records. I have since inherited the label from him and have released digitally remastered tracks from his catalog as well as recently recorded material that I have produced. I have carefully avoided re-releasing The Great Crowd single in question.
You might be interested to know that several of us in the group were pretty drunk when we made the recording. One member, who was married to one of the background singers, left his wife for one of the other background singers, who then left him for somebody else, also a Witness. I'm afraid this crowd's white robes got a little sullied. The group's only public appearance was at Disneyland where we arranged to smuggle in some wine so as to be adequately prepped for our performance as per usual.
Fun times.
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Coping With Parents' Becoming Jehovah's Witnesses
by DNCall inmy sister recently wrote a short piece on the impact of our parents' becoming jehovah's witnesses in the 1950s.
she was a teenager at the time.
what is so striking and disturbing is that the same predicament faces so many teenagers to this day.
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DNCall
Digoenesister: She is my older sister, 13 years my senior. What she discerned right off the bat took me 56 years. My story is in the 5-part "DNCall Unmasked" series on this site. She is remarkable indeed, as are my other two sisters, twins, who are 11 years my senior. They broke away as soon as they could just like their older sister.
Please feel free to share on exjwreddit.
jp1692: So true!