....that is not sure if you believe in god?
i envy those of you who have moved through this space.
wings.
Wings - At the moment I am pretty agnostic in my views. At one time I thought I did but after all the awakening from the JWslumber and seeing how they were to be the mouthpiece of the grand creator and yet were so full of deceipt I lost all comprehension of anything spiritually.
Quirky1
next weekend is the 14th annual spring beer fest at my favorite local spot.
it has just been confirmed last night that nvr is going to be heading in for some fun and revelry.
so if any in the chicagoland area like to join us just pm me.
I'm not too far from Chicago and I do have relatives there but financially it may be tough to swing.
Quirky1
got a letter today from a really nice guy who was in the bs group that met in my home for 10+ yrs.... privy to some of the huge issues my family has faced.... smart enough guy, ubm, at least one grown kid in and married into a huge 2nd/3rd generation family, grandkids yada yada...... he saw, but did not speak to me, at the school performance i alluded to in another post........ http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/156961/1.ashx......... as far as i know we never even made eye contact..... it was a crowded event in an elementary school but i saw him as he and his wife arrived late and scurried for seating.
at any rate.... this is part of a letter that came in the mail today ..... i cannot believe the spin that the r&f are fed and seem to swallow down without the fava beans and nice chianti ( i do not mean to berate his heartfelt and genuinely offered plea.... i just cannot stomach the blind allegiance to the b0rg) .
i have talked to a few of the friends about what can be done to encourage you and your family and decided to simply put a few thoughts in a letter.
Since I've been gone there has been a few sisters send me cards with something written in them. I didn't even read them, I just threw them in the trash in front of my JW wife.
I don't care for their nonsence anymore.
Quirky1
are you an active jehovah's witness?.
i was when i found this place.. this place, jwd, didn't change that.. i knew that so many things were wrong with the organization.
i was an elder.
I am a lurker no more.....JWD is the best therapy for me.
Reality.........What a Concept!
Quirky1
anyone care to psychoanalyze me??
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I don't get irritated I actually feel embarrassed to know that I once participated in that stupid little charade. The thought of earing a suit and knocking on doors. Stopping about mid-morning for coffe and a snack at McDonald's. Everybody staring at the way your dressed.
Reality.....what a concept!
Quirky1
oh, sit tight... i need to tell you a bit of background first.... oh, about 12/13 years ago, when i was still in, i became friends with a little crowd of dubs that were new to our area and cong.
they were quite a liberal bunch - certainly the most liberal i had ever come across and although they were striving for priviledges etc, they got up to a lot of naughty sh!t and definitly committed dfable offences.
well i wasn't exactly innocent either... i was just relieved to have come accross likeminded friends that my parents wouldn't get on my case about.
PDB - Just be "yourself".
No facades.
Quirky1
had a nice long talk with him yesterday....he sure seems to be on the fast track all of a sudden , but actually has shared doubts with his wife for years.
but once he makes up his mind....man he really moves.
so some of my elders know i think it bullshit, but i did not just come right out and say it.
Oompa,
At first, since leaving the JW's, I was having a social struggle but I am gradually getting over it. I am kind of a loner myself so being isolated a little doesn't bother me too much. Since the weather has cleared a little from winter I have no problem staying occupied after I leave work. I am outside till 9-10 pm. Yeah, there is still those depressed times but I really try not to think about it and I think it is partially due to the winter weather. Gloomy old sh*t.
I really do not know your situation but it does sound like you can take care of yourself, financially. Have you thought of getting away for awhile and clear your mind of everything that may or may not be bothering you? Maybe go see some old friends or relatives. Or, do the sailing thing for awhile. I kind of envy you in the sense that you have the means to support such an activity. If I could do it I would and I think my wife would go with me and it wouldn't bother me a bit if she did. She could use the time for deprogramming from the WTBTS.
I know you have commented on several of my threads, as well as many others, and I have taken all the advice I have received to heart and thought thru it very well and I appreciate it very much. I hope that whatever you decide it is right in your heart. You have to be true to yourself and be happy.
Quirky1
i've always had serious doubts but now that i am @ a point in my life were my parents have helped me to purchase my first place and now that i am no longer under their wing i feel like i am in a position to start doing something about it.
nothing drastic but just the beginnings of a gradual fade b/c i don't want to humiliate them in the circuit b/c they r very well-known and admired in the circuit, plus i owe them alot and am still a little financially dependent on them.
so my dad is an elder and conducts the bookstudy.
I grew a goatee and they wouldn't allow me any priveledges.
Quirky1
What the hell was I thinking?
Quirky1
anyone know where i can get an online copy of the reasoing book, perhaps in pdf format?
Loubelle - you hav a pm
