Posts by lancelink

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Internal wars in Congs ?

by Chook in

can you relay some of the battles , who won and how did the loser cope ?.

lancelink

One HS aged son of an elder wanted to go to his prom with a sister. The girls parents were OK with it, but the boys dad was a big shot in the hall and he would not have anything to do with this !

Well, my wife was a teacher, and we signed up to be chaperones for the evening, that really burned the elder, because it seemed that we were siding with the girl and her parents.

He tried so many ways to belittle us for chaperoning, but we stuck to our guns and went to the prom.

Man, did he do a slow burn for several months afterward, because the kids had a good time and they were being "watched" by other witnesses, although that wasn't out reasoning. Afterwards I noticed that my privileges started to dry up, and at that time my fade was really in high gear. Thanks mr. p, you really helped me realize what was important.

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have you noticed how the main Jw preaching message has changed?

by nowwhat? in

years ago it was all about armageddon and getting out of babylon the great.

then with the draw close to jehovah and is there a creator that care about you.

it was all about building a relationship with jehovah.

lancelink

I find this to be a very interesting topic.

yes, I remember the main focus of preaching to be the end of the world, but the college where I work the witnesses sit in the student lounge with their cart 2-3 days each week.

4 people sitting all day in an institution that their teachings do not like, it just blows my mind to see them sitting there.

And the signs they have, not much about the end, mainly it seems on how to be a better person and accept their version of the bible.

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"Privileges"

by minimus in

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friends

within the organization, jehovah's witnesses know that they must be dutiful and set an example for "worldly ones" as well as for their own brotherhood.

if a witness fails in setting the proper example, they may lose some 'privileges"..... what privileges did you look to have and what privileges did you lose?

?.

lancelink

My hours would be between 4-7 each month.

one Sunday an elder asked if I would be interested in reading the wt. which I said yes to.

next week the same thing, reading the wt.

after that meeting the elder pulled me aside and asked if I enjoyed reading for the meeting, which I said yes to.

His reply back to me was that I'd better get my time up each month if I wanted to read again.

my time started to go down, and I never read on Sunday again ✨💫

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Elder "D": Catholics No Longer Believe in a Trinity

by Saename in

so in this topic, i mentioned i had a conversation with an elder "d." this elder said that the catholic church admitted the trinity is unscriptural.

i'm pretty sure this is not true.

the doctrine of trinity is the most fundamental belief in the catholic church.

lancelink

https://www.catholic.com/tract/the-trinity

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Elder "D": Catholics No Longer Believe in a Trinity

by Saename in

so in this topic, i mentioned i had a conversation with an elder "d." this elder said that the catholic church admitted the trinity is unscriptural.

i'm pretty sure this is not true.

the doctrine of trinity is the most fundamental belief in the catholic church.

lancelink

Not true, another elder believing his thoughts are real.

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last convention before global attack on witnesses

by Phoebe in

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friends

so it's not enough that i'm dealing with post traumatic stress/anxiety and panic attacks all related to my life as a jw (50 years baptized -- i stopped going a couple of months ago) at 3 a.m. i get an email from the other side of the world.

'you have to go to the convention.

bro sanderson says we must watch the news, things are happening.

lancelink

I went with a large group of witnesses to see " The Empire Strikes Back" after a convention the summer when the movie opened.

Everyone just loved the movie, but then the conversation and mood completely changed when someone said, " well, this is probably going to be the last Star Wars movie before Armageddon, maybe George Lucas can hurry up and make the next movie pretty quick".

That conversation just wrecked the afternoon for pretty much everyone, but there were those diehard witnesses who just kept bringing up how sad they were that this was the end of Star Wars.

Fast forward to 2017. There have been how many, 8-9 more Star Wars movies since then ? Try not to let their ignorant chatter derail your life. your too important!

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Im "Going To Die In Armageddon"

by pale.emperor in

3 missed calls from my jw brother last night.

i didnt answer because he's actively shunning me and when he does ring it always to preach to me about how we're so close to the end and how i should "humble myself before the mighty hand of god" .

he then texts me saying "we need to talk".

lancelink

And they still think of that all the time.

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Call the SPCA on the witnesses?

by ILoveTTATT2 in

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friends

maybe i am "gasping for straws"... maybe not.

call the spca on the witnesses.. in the convention they'll have various "musical videos" so that people actually sit down during the "musical interludes".... in one of the videos they show children with various animals... enjoying life now.. that... is a real, live fish... with a tattoo!!

it appears in one of the convention videos.... it involves the same process as tattooing a human... same amount of pain... but obviously can't get approval from them!.

lancelink

I'm a humane investigator in the U.S. 95% of people/ organizations will just roll their eyes and smile.

but that nut group PETA might be interested

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Would You EVER Go Back To Being A Jehovah's Witness?

by minimus in

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friends

i could never understand why some people who know the truth about the "truth" ever go back.

once you understand all the hypocrisy and negatives, i would think it's almost impossible to go back!.

lancelink

Nope, my witness life consisted of growing up with parents and sisters in this religion. there were Good times, but the overwhelming craziness was always in the background. Then I got married, and we raised our kids as jw's. they both bolted away when grown up.

Now to return, and hopefully try and renew that life, get back with old friends, and continue on ???? That to me is just plain desperation. Life moves on, old friends grow old, their kids move on, new people come in, it would be a total new group. And with the stigma of actually having left the religion, I would be totally miserable.

an old friend who was a cop divorced his wife, got df'd and recently returned to the witness fold. He told me that he "misses the friends, and he wants people to attend his funeral when he dies😯. That was three years ago, and I've heard that he moved to another hall because he cannot stand the elders.

I just shake my head and take several deep breaths when I hear what he is doing.

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effect of shunning

by lancelink in

i have read quite a bit on this site about the effect of shunning, mainly how the person being shunned reacts to it.

and then there is the wt reaction, how everything is the df'ed persons fault.. well, i ran across this article today.

some might think it is way too off base with the drug problem that this girl faced.. but the point i got out of it is how important it is to help the person with the problem instead of walking away and expecting that ignorance will cure the problem.

lancelink

I have read quite a bit on this site about the effect of shunning, mainly how the person being shunned reacts to it. And then there is the wt reaction, how everything is the df'ed persons fault.

Well, I ran across this article today. Some might think it is way too off base with the drug problem that this girl faced.

But the point I got out of it is how important it is to help the person with the problem instead of walking away and expecting that ignorance will cure the problem.

I knew several people over the years who were ignored by their jw family/friends because New York told them to do the jw "right thing"

How sad this religion is.

http://www.aol.com/article/2015/04/26/father-pens-honest-obituary-about-daughter-s-heroin-overdose/21176534/?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00001348