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  Was it Adam who altered his own DNA so that sicknesses & consequent death would be passed on to his offspring?

  by deegee in

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  the blame for mankind's sicknesses/diseases and consequent death has been placed squarely on the shoulders of adam:.

  romans 5:12, 17 - 19:"therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned—for if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man.......consequently, just as one trespass resulted in condemnation for all people........for just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners........".

  1 corinthians 15: 21, 22:"for since death came through a man........... for as in adam all die.......".

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  Schnell, poor Satan always getting the blame, The Devil the great DNA knob twiddler
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  Was it Adam who altered his own DNA so that sicknesses & consequent death would be passed on to his offspring?

  by deegee in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the blame for mankind's sicknesses/diseases and consequent death has been placed squarely on the shoulders of adam:.

  romans 5:12, 17 - 19:"therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned—for if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man.......consequently, just as one trespass resulted in condemnation for all people........for just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners........".

  1 corinthians 15: 21, 22:"for since death came through a man........... for as in adam all die.......".

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  great point, the blame can be solely pointed at our wonderful creator,what an abhorrent evil entity,I wonder how the theists explain it?
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  "The G.B. is neither inspired nor infallible"

  by smiddy in

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  that admission in the feb.17 ,study edition of the watchtower , " who is leading gods people today ?

  " "the governing body is neither inspired, nor infallible, therefore it (they/we) can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction .".

  have the many jehovahs witnesses past and present who have lost their lives by refusing blood transfusions due to the prohibition on blood tranfusions by jehovahs witnesses really got the sense of this statement ?.

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  Fisherman; possession of a Malawi political card did not compromise a JW's neutrality as being in possession of it one was not favouring a particular political party, Malawi was a one party state ruled by a dictator, also Malawians were in receipt of UN aid and the population were required by the UN to posses a card when they went to receive their basic aid.There are an awful lot of pro jw myths about this.
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  Kendall Kingdom Hall UK

  by darkspilver in

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  all this talk of kingdom halls.... remember what used to happen?.

  gilthwaiterigg lane kendal la9 6nt.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y11f_plajek.

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  "quick builds" oh the memories, I walked off my last one and vowed never to return when I was a Dub, what an utter waste of everyone's time, terrible shoddy workmanship, a ridiculous over supply of labour, which results in most of the workforce hanging around not doing anything worthwhile at all, just getting in the way, causing hazards and health and safety breaches, thankfully the H&S is taken seriously these days and has brought these farces to resemble proper construction sites, a friend of mine who is a very skilled carpenter was working on The Surrey Assembly Hall on some partitioning when a group of young lads with hammers and bags of nails and with no carpentry experience at all came to join him and made an utter hash of his skilled excellent work, he picked up his tools and never returned, another brother on the same site was installing some pipework, after he completed the task the site manager told him not to bother testing his work! needless to say he never returned either.
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  dealing with religion after leaving the witnesses

  by joker in

  1. jw
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  i’ve noticed many people posting on this site seem to have completely given up on religion/spirituality.. but some have attended services at another religion, or just follow their own heart regarding what to believe.. my question is how does anyone deal after leaving with all of the witness crap that we believed about babylon the great, the great harlot, spiritual prostitute, etc., etc.

  i’m finding out that i seem to have built myself a pretty solid wall regarding religion.. some people can just chuck all beliefs into one basket saying that they are all basically garbage,,, and that is ok, no problem i respect that.. but for myself there is a certain part of my personality that needs a spiritual belief not like the witnesses in any way, but something to meditate on, and contemplate.. being a witness taught me how bad it is to actually think of god in any other way besides what the jw’s believe.

  and now when i attend any other service, the dark jw side seems to pop out and seriously makes me believe that everything i see/do/say is wrong.

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  in the very early years of me leaving I had a very good friend(RIP) who was an evangelical christian, he invited me to his church a couple of times, and I never went again,it just wasn't for me, I've not set foot in a church since, well over 20 years, and I cant say my life is any poorer for it.
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  CO visit... Circuit is not growing at all, he said during midweek meeting

  by StarTrekAngel in

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  so that was a "shocker".

  i was not able to attend the meeting.

  i had a more important one with my other apostate friends in the area.

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  and there is not a damn thing he can do about it, apathy is alive and well in WT land !
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  What's The First "Worldly" Thing You Did When You Exited The Cult?

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
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  when you finally and officially exited the cult, whether it be by disfellowshipping, disassociating or fading - what was the first things you did that are considered "worldly"?.

  for me, it was like crash landing on another planet that looked like earth but was completely different to the earth i knew.

  i wanted to learn everything that i thought i already knew.. first things i did:.

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  jookbeard

  nothing out of the ordinary I was a fully active double lifer , I visited a working girl in the weeks leading to my baptism and dabbled in prostitution during the all the time I was active and married I'm ashamed to say.
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  What is the biggest hypocrisy you have seen as a witness?

  by HereIgo in

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  i have far too many to name, but ill start with obscene music, gambling and cussing like a sailor.

  all the while preaching to "worldly people" about their impending death at armageddon.

  thoughts?.

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  jookbeard

  I always found talks given about the "snares of materialism" by one particular elder in our cong who was very wealthy, brand new BWM parked outside the KH, nice big house,holidays abroad etc, very hypocritical indeed, call me old fashioned.
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  RIP dad, who introduced me to this fairytail of everlastin life and paradise :(

  by Frezia in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  less than 5 hours ago my great dad fell asleep the last time :( still in a bit of a shock and sad that i will not see him again...i promised myself that once he is here no more, i will somehow make my move out of this organisation who kept us all captive believing in a fantasy of an everlasting life :( i am in a tricky situation, since raised as jw, still in, married to an active jw, and pretty sure that all in my social and family circle will turn their backs on me if i finally say goodbye to a fairytail ;(.

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  sorry for your loss Frezia, many of us have been there, lost my father an elder in 2005, died in good standing to them, same my mum in 2015, had all the promises of never going to high school the work place etc, the creators promises to be fulfilled by the end of the 20th century etc, pathetic isnt it?
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  London K.H.'s - Which Ones Will Be Sold Off?

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  according to the org's website, various congregations will be moving in with other congregations, effective january 1st 2017.

  (i've only highlighted a couple) in all probability, their own k.h.

  is/has been sold.

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  to think that all of these KH's at one time over the years would have either been extensively and expensively refurbished or would have been new or "quick builds" remember how much they used to boast about how great they were and how much evidence it showed of the "holy spirit" in blessing them? if these sell offs are to happen these KH's are all likely to be sold off to property developers for housing, there will not be any evidence at all in the years that pass that there was ever KH's there at all, so much for their earthly chariot moving at speed and how great the need was etc, laughable in reality.