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Death Warrant for Jesus

by winnower in

d r. c. c. bombaugh found a rare record of the death of christ and recorded it in his 1875 edition of gleanings for the curious from the harvest-fields of literature.

the "death warrant of jesus of nazareth" was engraved on a copper artifact and bombaugh reported that of the many interesting relics and fragments brought to light by the preserving researches of antiquarians, none could be more interesting to the philanthropist.

and believer than the followingto christians the most imposing judicial document ever recorded in human annuals.

winnower

D r. C. C. Bombaugh found a rare record of the death of Christ and recorded it in his 1875 edition of Gleanings for the Curious from the Harvest-Fields of Literature. The "Death Warrant of Jesus of Nazareth" was engraved on a copper artifact and Bombaugh reported that “Of the many interesting relics and fragments brought to light by the preserving researches of antiquarians, none could be more interesting to the philanthropist. and believer than the following—to Christians the most imposing judicial document ever recorded in human annuals. It has been thus faithfully transcribed:

THE DEATH-WARRANT OF JESUS OF NAZARETH

Sentence rendered by Pontius Pilate,

Acting Governor of Lower Galilee,

Stating that Jesus of Nazareth shall suffer Death on the
Cross.

In the year seventeen of the Emperor Tiberius Caesar, and
on the 27th day of March, in the city of the holy
Jerusalem—Annas and Caiphas being priests, sacrificators of
the People of God—Pontius Pilate, Governor of Lower Galilee,
sitting in the presidential chair of the praetory, condemns
Jesus of Nazareth to die on the cross between two thieves, the
great and notorious evidence of the people saying:

I. Jesus is a seducer.

II. He is seditious.

III. He is the enemy of the Law.

IV. He calls himself falsely the son of God.

V. He calls himself falsely the King of Israel.

VI. He entered into the Temple followed by a multitude
bearing palm branches in their hands.

Orders the first centurion, Quilus Cornelius, to lead him to
the place of execution.

Forbids any whomsoever, either poor or rich, to oppose the
death of Jesus Christ.

The witnesses who signed the condemnation of Jesus are—

I. Daniel Rabani, a Pharisee

II. Joannus Robani

III. Raphael Robani

IV. Capet, a Citizen

Jesus shall go out of the city of Jerusalem by the Gate of
Struenus.

The foregoing is engraved on a copper plate, on the reverse of which is written, ‘A similar plate is sent to each tribe.’ It was found in an antique marble vase, while excavating the ancient city of Aquila, in the kingdom of Naples, in the year 1810, and was discovered by the Commissioners of Arts of the French Army. At the expedition of Naples, it was enclosed in a box of ebony and preserved in the sacristy of the Carthusians. The French translation was made by the Commissioners of Arts. The original is in the Hebrew language.”

My commentary:

Jesus did not "die". He was neither ill nor old.

Jesus did not "give his life". He outran them as long as he could. He did not roll over belly-up and "give".

Jesus did not "die for your sins." The repetition of this phrase is how the scribes and pharisees transfer the guilt to the little people and it is used to belittle and manipulate those who would follow the teachings of Jesus.

Jesus was murdered because he was a WHISTLE BLOWER.

He exposed the fraud in the temples.

There is probably a lot that he said and did that has been omitted from the Bible scriptures.

I have no doubt that to his inner circle (and maybe more) he exposed the trickery of the wizard priests.

I have no doubt that he exposed the oppressive tactics of religion even then. That is why he often spoke of "freedom" from dictates of man.

Jesus did not come to earth to die for us.

He came to LIVE for us. He came to teach us through example that love and truth are the highest moral principles. That is how we are to follow him.

Winnower

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time to leave after 42 yrs of marriage

by tiffy0212 in

married 42 yrs and ready to leave.

my husband is a jw and has been for 38 yrs.

i even joined from 1974 to 1985 to keep my family together.

winnower

Harvey H. Jackson: Husbands, a word of warning

05-28-2008

Back in a pile of clippings I clipped in case I ran dry, column-wise, was a piece telling how Mary Winkler, the Tennessee wife who shot and killed her preacher-husband, was freed after 67 days of treatment for posttraumatic stress disorder. Add that time to the five months she spent in jail awaiting trial and she served less than a year for her "crime."

Some folks were surely surprised by this, considering how we Southerners like to lock-em-up and throw away the key.

But not me.

'Cause I had read Julia Reed's In Defense of Southern Womanhood: How to Kill Your Man and Walk in the 1996 "Crime" issue of The Oxford American (to which you all should subscribe — no lie). In this wonderfully wicked essay, Reed revealed what anyone who has hung around a Dixie courthouse already knows — that "a woman — a white, well-dressed, church-going woman — in the Deep South could, generally, kill her husband and walk away."

Right.

Long before anyone down here had ever heard of PTSD or such, we knew instinctively that if a woman like that did something like that she surely had a reason. And even if it was hard for judge and jury to figure out just what it was, in the South the ultimate penalty was simply out of the question.

So, for that matter, was hard time.

Reed asked readers to consider the case of Erma Abraham, who shot her husband in the head with a .38, wrapped the gun in aluminum foil and put it in the deep freeze. Her defense, carefully concocted to touch deeply repressed sentiments in the all-male jury, was she went crazy when her husband forced her to commit "unnormal" acts that were described in detail to the deeply embarrassed "twelve good men and true."

For good measure, Erma's one-armed, never-miss-a-trick defense attorney, Howard Dyer, brought in a psychiatrist who testified that the defendant suffered from "acute brain syndrome" and that she never would have done what she did if she had known what she was doing.

Erma Abraham got 60 days in the state mental hospital and was set free.

The psychiatrist got $500.

Erma's attorney got enough money to buy a black Continental, which was known from then on as "Howard Dyer's Abraham Lincoln."

A few months later, the folks for whom Erma worked discovered that she could afford this sort of representation because she had been embezzling from the firm. But when they asked the district attorney to take action, he reminded them that "if she was crazy when she killed her husband, she must have been crazy when she took the money."

Case closed.

Erma's defense was the best defense because Southerners readily accept that the mind can do all sorts of things. A person who seems perfectly normal one day can "just snap" the next and return to normal a little later. And women, being the "weaker sex," are particularly susceptible to such snapping.

We have all heard how someone "just lost their mind," and when that happens there really isn't much to do but put things in order as best you can — as Jean Wilson of Nashville's wealthy Belle Meade district did when she killed her husband with a samurai sword. After the "tragic accident" (or so the jury concluded) but before the police were called, Jean and her best friend cleaned up the place (and destroyed the evidence) because she did not want everything to be a mess with all those people trooping around.

(Reminds you a little of the Sissy Spacek character, Babe, in Crimes of the Heart, who shoots her abusive husband in the stomach, goes into the kitchen, makes a pitcher of lemonade and offers him a glass as he lies there. Some folks — Yankees, mostly — found that improbable. Not me.)

As do most Southerners, I have my own story to show how and why women can murder husbands and go free.

In the summer of my youth, I often would slip into the courtroom to listen to lawyers argue their cases.

It was air-conditioned.

And one of those times I came on a lawyer arguing on behalf of a woman who, after years of abuse by a husband everyone knew as a bully, got up one morning, fixed his breakfast, got the kids off to school, and while he was finishing his second cup of coffee she went into the bedroom, into the closet, got the shotgun, loaded it, walked back into the kitchen where he sat and blew him all over the Frigidaire.

It was not a case where the "she just snapped" defense would work because of the way she got everything done before she did the deed — to which, by the way, she confessed when she called the sheriff.

Instead, her attorney catalogued for the jury a history of the man's misdeeds against his family, against his neighbors, against the community in general. No one, not even his own blood kin, rose to his defense. And when all was said and done, the lawyer concluded that here was a man who "needed killing."

The jury agreed.

The widow, white, well-dressed, church-going and a mother to boot, was put on probation.

And no one was surprised.

Are you?

http://www.annistonstar.com/opinion/2008/as-columns-0528-hhjacksoncol-8e27s5529.htm

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Do the JW's really and truly believe that the end is near?

by TooBad TooSad in

if the jw's really believe what the witchtower babble and trick society says about.

the end being so close, do their actions betray what they preach?

if you knew that your house.

winnower

The reason there is no panic or no effort to change anything or "prepare for disaster" is because they believe "Jah will take care of them." Well, in a sense they are right. The WTS "paradise" is right in line with the UN "utopia" plan. The JWs will be gently guided to fall in line with it. WTS, as well as ALL of christendom are NGO's. As such, they are pledged to uphold the idealistic one world unity to bring about a "sustainable peace and security". The first order of business is "religious neutrality". This has already been taking place in christian churches. Very soon, the JWs will give up the door to door. The NGO agreements require that there be religious neutrality in the "public square". Which means no more prostelytizing. Every religion will tell their flock that "baptism has sealed them" into the Kingdom. They will emphasize that this is their "mark". This is a lie. However, the purpose is to alleviate any anxiety about taking the chip ("mark of the beast"). They will tell you that the chip is rendering to Caesar and we are in the digital age, after all. By reinforcing the idea that baptism is "mark of Kingdom membership" the JWs will not think twice about taking the digital chip to participate in their new society. It will give them another distinction of "belonging to the Kingdom" because they are accepted in the new society once they have the mark.

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god's organization...

by kzjw in

is that term blaphemy, or is it idolotry?

if i'm an ubm, but know that "though shall have no other gods before me" i am spiritually wndangering myself?

my mate tries to defuse this debate by saying the organization exists in the form of angels, but were she to spew that bs to an elder, i'm sure she'd get some serious counselling.

winnower

Is that term blaphemy, or is it idolotry? "god's organization"??? I assume you mean Jehovah? Jehovah is one of many Hebrew gods created by the wizard priests. Jehovah is NOT your Creator. If you worship Jehovah, and hold this wicked deity in high regard, you are guilty of idolotry of the worst kind. You would be a devil worshipper. And to model yourself in his ways would make you a sob. Now that I have told you the truth of the matter, if you continue to worship jehovah, you are a blasphemer to your Creator. Would you like to know the chain of command in jehovah god's organization? Here it is: http://www.2pacworld.co.uk/killuminati.html

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Angel Armies: good or bad?

by winnower in

who is the "god-of -the- angel-armies" mentioned here?

(last verse).

is this the "god of the fallen angels"?

winnower

It's not a video game. This is from the Bible: Isaiah 24. The translation I used is the Message Bible. For other translations of this chapter, I recommend www.biblegateway.com.

The Bible is a living work. Sometimes it's like "Back to the Future" when you can read an episode in the Old Testament which is describing our future ahead. This is one such chapter. Here is a commentary:

Isaiah 24:1 "The prophet transports himself in spirit to the end of all things. He describes the destruction of the world. He sees, however, that this destruction will be gradually accomplished. He here depicts the first scene: the destruction of all that exists on the surface of the earth... as even now occurs [in limited areas] as a consequence of wars... Jehovah empties, devastates, depopulates the surface of the earth..." (Johan P. Lange, A Commentary). "The writer feels that he is living in the last days, and in the universal wretchedness and confusions of the age he seems to discern the 'beginning of sorrows.' His thoughts glide almost imperceptibly from the one point of view to the other, now describing the distress and depression which exist, and now the more terrible visitation which is imminent" (The Cambridge Bible).

Isaiah 24:22 The Hebrew word used here may mean visit in mercy as well as visit in punishment, but the context does not seem to indicate the possibility of mercy in this case.

This Jehovah god is NOT our Creator.

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Disaster Preparedness

by passwordprotected in

as an elder i have a file on my computer containing the name, address, cell and home telephone number of every publisher associated with the congregation of which i am a part.

it is my understanding that this information is also held at the branch and, in turn, at brooklyn.

the reasoning behind the need to have such information on all of the publishers is that, in the event of a disaster, be it through 'nature' or design, the elders will be able to contact the 'flock'.

winnower

The worst flaw of all is that none of you have questioned the security of your personal information. Hitler used census records to track the Jews. The US used census records to track Japanese Americans in this country during WWII and imprisoned entire families simply because of their genetics. They were not spies. They were families that had lived here for years. In 2004 the census bureau turned over data of all Arab ancestry in USA to Homeland Security. WTS has never given you any statement of confidentiality. Even if you are DA or DF your records are still kept on file. If you have given them any personal info concerning where you can be located in emergency....you better change your plans and keep it to yourself! news excerpt June 11, 2008:

A computer containing sensitive details on 600,000 prospective military recruits was snatched from the car of a Royal Navy recruitment officer in central England in January.

The data included details of candidates' religions and some banking records. It was not encrypted.

In another breach, tax officials last year lost computer disks containing information — including banking records — on nearly half the British population.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080611/ap_on_re_eu/britain_lost_documents

Winnower

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Did GOD become a Man?

by UnDisfellowshipped in

did god become a man?.

some 2,013 years ago, a baby boy was born in a small town in the middle east, and he grew up and lived around 30 years before being put to death.

today, two millenniums later, over 2 billion people claim to follow that man, and they claim that this man lives, even though he died!.

winnower

Jesus and the Father are two separate and distinct entities. Mark 11:25 (spoken by Jesus) And when you stand praying, if you hold anything against anyone, forgive him, so that your Father in heaven may forgive you your sins." Jesus tells you that the Father is in a different location. Many times he refers to the Father as being in Heaven. Jesus was on the earth. He never said he was a time traveler back and forth. Mark 13:32 "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. The Father has knowledge that Jesus does not have. Mark 14:36 And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee; take away this cup from me: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt. If Jesus WAS the Father, then who was he praying to? Matthew 20:23 23 Jesus told them, “You will indeed drink from my bitter cup. But I have no right to say who will sit on my right or my left. My Father has prepared those places for the ones he has chosen.” Ultimate decisions are made by the Father, not Jesus. John 5:30 "I can do nothing on my own. As I hear, I judge, and my judgment is just, because I seek not my own will but the will of him who sent me. Again, Jesus is very clear that he was sent by another entity as an emissary. John 14: 28 "You heard me say, 'I am going away and I am coming back to you.' If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I. Jesus clearly tells you the Father is greater ( more powerful, highest authority) than he is. John 5:43

I have come in my Father's name, and you do not accept me; but if someone else comes in his own name, you will accept him.

Jesus reveals his status as an ambassador; an authorized representative; an emissary

John 14:7

If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also

In considering the characteristics and attributes of Jesus, how could this jehovah god be anything like him?

Jehovah god is NOT "the Father" that Jesus speaks of.

Jehovah god is just another one of the many Hebrew gods used by wizard priests to control the people.

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Of Frogs and Demons

by winnower in

revelation 16:16 (message bible) the frog-demons gathered the kings together at the place called in hebrew armageddon.

sounds like a bilderberg meeting to me!.

do take note...there isa controlling entity behind the kings....... .

winnower

Amphibian Ark Global Campaign: "2008 Year of the Frog"

2008 Year of the Frog launch
Lesley Dickie, 2008 Year of the Frog Global Campaign Manager, Amphibian Ark

(a subliminal message here, yes?)

Fetus' Feet Show Fish, Reptile Vestiges

By Jennifer Viegas,

Discovery News

May 18, 2006 —

The feet of human embryos taking shape in the womb reveal links to prehistoric fish and reptiles, a new study finds.

Human feet may not look reptilian once babies emerge from the womb, but during development the appendages appear similar to prehistoric fish and reptiles. The finding supports the theory that mammalian feet evolved from ancient mammal-like reptiles that, in turn, evolved from fish.

It also suggests that evolution -- whether that of a species over time or the developmental course of a single organism -- follows distinct patterns.

In this case, the evolution of mammalian feet from fish fins to four-legged reptiles to four-limbed mammals to human feet appears to roughly mirror what happens to a maturing human embryo.

"Undoubtedly there are clear parallels between the mammal-like reptilian foot and the human foot," said Albert Isidro, an anthropologist at the Autonomous University of Barcelona, Spain and lead author of the study, which appeared in the journal The Foot.

Isidro and colleague Teresa Vazquez made the determination after analyzing fossils of a number of mammal-like reptiles that lived from 75 to 360 million years ago. The scientists also studied fossils of osteolepiform fish, which appear to be half fish and half reptilian. These fish lived 400 million years ago and had lungs, nostrils and four fins located where limbs would later be found in four-footed reptiles and mammals.

In 33-day-old human embryos, the scientists observed "the outline of a lower extremity in the form of a fin, similar to that seen in osteolepiform fishes." As the embryo continued to develop, the researchers focused their attention on two foot bones: the calcaneous, or heel bone, and the talus, which sits between the heel and the lower leg.

At 54 days of gestation, these two bones sit next to each other as they did within the reptile herbivore Bauria cynops, which lived around 260 million years ago. This ancient reptile had flat, crushing teeth and mammalian features.

At eight and a half weeks of gestation, the researchers found the two embryonic foot bones resemble those seen in the Diademodon vegetarian dinosaur, which lived around 230 million years ago.

"We can tell that the embryo is half way between the reptiles and the mammals (at this stage)," Isidro told Discovery News.

The two foot bones continue to develop until, at nine weeks, they resemble that of placental mammals as they emerged 80 million years ago.

This development of feet in the human embryo mirrors how the foot evolved over millions of years beginning with fish and ending with early mammals, according to the scientists.

Supporting the fish/foot link was the discovery last month of a new species, Tiktaalik roseae, which lived 375 million years ago. It had fish fins and scales, but also limb parts found in four-legged animals.

"Tiktaalik blurs the boundary between fish and land-living animals both in terms of its anatomy and its way of life," said Neil Shubin, professor and chairman of organismal biology at the University of Chicago and co-author of a related paper in the journal Nature.

H. Richard Lane, director of sedimentary geology and paleobiology at the National Science Foundation, said, "These exciting discoveries are providing fossil ‘Rosetta Stones’ for a deeper understanding of this evolutionary milestone: fish to land-roaming tetrapods (four limbed animals)."

http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2006/05/16/mammalfeet_arc.html

A Campylobacter species was isolated from blood from a febrile patient with precursor T-cell acute lymphoblastic leukemia, and after antibiotic treatment, a similar bacterium was isolated from blood 37 days later. Although phenotypic testing did not definitively identify the organisms, molecular analysis indicated that they were the same strain of Campylobacter fetus subsp. fetus and were of reptile origin .

Revue / Journal Title

Journal of clinical microbiology ISSN 0095-1137 CODEN JCMIDW

Source / Source

2004, vol. 42, n o 9, pp. 4405-4407 [3 page(s) (article)] (20 ref.)

Langue / Language

Anglais

Editeur / Publisher

American Society for Microbiology, Washington, DC, ETATS-UNIS (1975) (Revue)

http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=16110224

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The copper serpent....drives me nuts!

by oompa in

graven images are so thoroughly criticized in the bible....totally forbidden.

yet any idols made where powerless...just a piece of wood you can also cook on.

yet god sent out zillions of vipers (thanks dude) to bite everybody....and actually has a scary viper impage made an put on a pole....with some serious power attached.

winnower

The LORD said to Moses, "Make a snake and put it up on a pole; anyone who is bitten can look at it and live." So Moses made a bronze snake and put it up on a pole. Then when anyone was bitten by a snake and looked at the bronze snake, he lived (Numbers / Bemidbar 21:8,9).

The Old Testament also speaks of fiery serpents (arc lights) that the Hebrews were struck by on their trek through the wilderness, and of a life-saving holy serpent, with a great healing power (ultra-violet light), which Moses set on a brass pole like the fiery arc light or serpent on the pole.

read more here: http://einhornpress.com/arcark.aspx

'Magic' laser said to relieve pain,
promote healing

St. Mary's is the first hospital in the world using the Erchonia laser in a burn unit. In a study, it reduces pain an average of 60 percent.

Nelson said he uses it in every arena of his practice, from burn and wound care to hand surgery patients to reconstructive and cosmetic surgery patients. He's used it on a woman with a snake-bite on her foot. Five minutes after the treatment, she was wiggling her toes with much greater ease, he said.

http://www.myologic.com/research.html

Take a candid look at who Moses was and whence he came. He was the adopted and beloved son of the Pharaoh’s daughter, and he grew up in the Royal Egyptian Court where he learned about electricity and all the other magic and secrets of the wily Egyptian priests stationed there.

He would eventually take his Hebrew confidant Aaron, whom he taught the tricks of his priestly training, before the Pharaoh and have him turn his carbon rod into an electric serpent; but Moses's mentors would easily do the same. However, Moses's science would supposedly be more powerful, so Aaron's rod would be able to destroy the electric serpents of his fellow magicians.

Moses's exposure to the Egyptian priests' magic, or wisdom, is verified by John D. Davis, in his renowned Dictionary of the Bible, which explains that

"The adopted son of a princess required a princely education, and Moses became instructed in all the wisdom of the Egyptians (Acts VII, 22), who were then unsurpassed in civilization by any people in the world. This was designed to fit him into high office under the government, if not even for the Egyptian throne."

read more about these ancient technologies at http://ancientskyscraper.com/118901.html

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The Ark of the Covenant

by sacolton in

jw
friends

.

do you think it could be found?

when was it last seen in the bible?.

winnower

Did you ever wonder why, if graven images were prohibited in the commandments, why were the images of cherubim angels used on the arc?

If you understand how the arc is made and it's purpose, you will understand the Finished Mysteries of God.

The Finished Mysteries of God is revealed on my post "Moses was Illuminati Wizard"

Winnower

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Harvey H. Jackson: Husbands, a word of warning

2008 Year of the Frog launch Lesley Dickie, 2008 Year of the Frog Global Campaign Manager, Amphibian Ark

Revue / Journal Title

Source / Source

Langue / Language

Editeur / Publisher

2008 Year of the Frog launch
Lesley Dickie, 2008 Year of the Frog Global Campaign Manager, Amphibian Ark