Can you give us a report.
There was suppose to be "big" news.
can you give us a report.
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there was suppose to be "big" news..
Can you give us a report.
There was suppose to be "big" news.
according to their own logic in the watchtower : fractions transfered between mother and baby in the womb.
are allowed to be transfused because jehovah wouldn't break his own law regarding these fractions.. so why aren't white blood cells allowed to be transfused?.
immune boosters.
Breastfeed!
All babies deserve it (except from HIV/AIDS moms.....so sry, give lots of hugs, kisses and coos though!)
Use Adiri bottles when have to use a bottle, it is adjustable as you baby grows.
Use WhisperWear when pumping......no one could hear them at the KH, or at the grocery store!
Breastfeed in public!
I Breastfed during the meetings.....in my seat!
If your little one needs blood let them have it......Jehovah allows fetal blood to pass to the mother through delivery. Jehovah allows WBC in Breastmilk, he even allows RBC if the mom develops a mastis. The only real treatment is to "nurse through it". RBC also pass during the time the baby is learning latching (ouch the cracked, dry nipples).
A Extended Breastfeeding Mom and back-up Lacatation Consultant for WIC
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The next time you wear a pants, or walking shorts to the KH and some man hassles you do this: Involve at least 2 elders and 1 sister.
Ask for the specific scriptural reference. There are none except for adornment and braids.
If the man insist you outfit is "unwomanly"in any manner, challenge him to wear it! (if you are really bold-start to undress right there so you both can exchange outfits)
Or make the challenge that he wears your outfit or size purchased to fit him, accessories, heels, hose , make-up, perfume and all......the next TMS day, for the full day.....going to work in the outfit and going to the TMS in the outfit.
I have never had an elder take me up on the challenge or heard a complaint by him again.
Our society determines male and female attire, not some PO.
You know you could go to the other extreme too......start wearing a habib and asking why they are not wearing robes as Jesus did?
i have been approved to write the cover story for local newspaper about jehovah's witnesses.
it can't be any more than 2,500 words.
this newspaper has a huge reader-base.
By focusing on the control aspect you can touch on all the bases! Without the control the pedos, shunning, blood ban, requirements to leave the organization, flip flopping etc etc would not exist if not for their control issues.
my point is this.
we all know the wts weaseled out on their bedrock 1914 "this generation will not pass away..." doctrine in 1995. but when having a jw encounter, such as a recent posters encounter/ambush in the a&p parking lot, why not play dumb, mention the above math and ask .."what happened?
a person 10 yrs old in 1914 would be 103 today, much longer than a generation..".
Oh you are so cruel......
i was thinking about how difficult it was for me growing up a witness.
the constant pull between two worlds has got.
to do some kind of number on your personality.
Knowing the sting of lonilness
but being in the wilderness
has brought about a sense of fearlessness
The Elders tell me I am evil
The worldly children would rather play with a weasel
Where do I belong? What can I use as a gauge?
Having knowledge of good and evil is like being stuck in a gilded cage
The demons laugh and say "sure you are right!",
"But those people hate you, it is not worth this fight"
I stay faithful and true awaiting Jesus like a thief in the night
I keep my faith near and dear
Praying Jesus will quickly bring Armageddon here
I want all to be resurrected and given a chance,
because I know what it is like to be rejected, without a second glance.
the weird thing is - i almost can't recall what i once believed about the fds and gb ["faithful and discreet slave" and "governing body"], who they in fact were, and how they came to their conclusions and 'revelations'.. come to think of it, i think that was because i was conditioned to not ever question them, because to question them would be to question the organization, and to question the organization was to question jesus and jehovah.. but i've been trying to 'dig into' my brain to see if i can remember how i as an active jw saw them:.
- i believed them to be inspired, just not in the same 'degree' (?
) as the biblical writers were.
I always pictured them with the same mildness, kindness, and grace as the Annointed Sister in my "birth" congregation. Now all I see is fierce corporate greed and "big business" attitudes of leaving those of us in the north western hemisphere for cheaper labor in developing countries. Easier Pickings. Those who can be fed milk for another 25-50 years, vs most of us who are starting to question if this is really meat the we are eating.
i hate where i am at in life.
the subject is mainly for faders i guess, but even some hardcore da's probably just cant get things out of their system.
i want a fresh start, but feel i could not do it around old friends, family, and esp.
For me, it is the old adage where do I go. I don't mind personal/family bible (NOT BOOK) studies, but what about fellowship for my children? I see so clearly that if I joined the Methodist, Lutheran, or Southern Baptist how materially and socially my and my families life would be full and complete! But spiritually empty! It is not like I wasn't exposed to many different religions, I was, more than any JW child I ever knew. I actually liked repeating " and also with you" when the Episc. or Lutheran Pastor would say "may God go with you". But with the doctrines of Hell, Immortality, Trinity.... yada yada yada I am saddened, for I have tried to understand them, I was a star student in Sunday school while visiting my father EOW. . I do not and can not embrace them, want or try as I may. I limit what my children hear at the meetings. I do not take them to bookstudy now because my childhood love for that fairytale red Rev book has turned into hate and disgust. I mean really, put out a new book, one in which I don't have to make even more corrections to! I am not welcomed at the TMS, so we don't attend. So right now I am down to the talk and WT depending on content. More and more my children attend less and less. The little man behind the green curtain rarely bothered me before, but since the NGO thing and current political/interdenominational associations, he taunts me. I have even changed my name on my WT subscription because of the fears of the WTBS selling us out to the UN. I am sure some demon somewhere is having a field day texting his buddies with ROFLMFAO!
Yes I have prayed and prayed and prayed, only to be drawn to scriptures pointing out that this test is mostly for the menfolk, that I should be grateful and raise my kids to know Jehovah, and Jesus. But of course as a female, I see how to "fix" it yet know scripture that shows it is not my place. Damn, I would have been raised fundalmentalist one way or the other.....arrrggggg
Maybe the kool-aid WT will be so horrendous that I snap!
The truth will set you free, but you realize why ignorance is bliss.
Knowing the truth makes you responisble.
"I love my religion, I just hate the idiots running it and espousing their "interpretations" as biblical reality"
please, please remember i am asking a question, not stating a fact.. .
there appears to be many advantages to fading out of the 'truth' as opposed to a full blown "i don't believe it and i'm out of here regardless of consequences'' policy.. reading others postings and experiences here and my own local experiences i can truly see why many do so.
i remember during the later stages of my still attending meetings talking to a couple who had stopped going to meetings a few years before.
Very good question. It would appear that to others, at times you would have to less then forthright, concerning JW activity/beliefs in your life. I think it really more depends on your situation. If you have family still, friends you don't want to lose, or nosy elders, I think you will have a greater chance of having to choose whether to be honest or not. If you fade with no one left behind, then no, you have no reason not to be clear about your beliefs. It is sad the the Society, has brought on the situation.
But ask yourself this, after fading, if you are baptized, do you plan to participate in activities that can get you Df'ed? If you plan to join fully the land of the "worldly" then I suggested in another post how to leave the Society (letter of DA), in 6 months without losing anything local.
Below is the 6 month plan.
1. Move your pub card to a congo that is 1-2 hours away (get a P.O. Box or Mailboxes etc if needed). Plan on making 1 meeting once a month, for 4 months, advise the elders you are having "personal problems".
2. Move pub card gain to another congo even farther. Tell the elders you are having personal problems, never elaborate to much, just pressures of life stuff. Do the same as above except for 2 months.
Now prepare a letter of DA, do not give any real details. Say with a heavy heart you feel you must leave, and resolve your personal problems, as they are getting in the way of serving Jehovah's Organization. You fear if you do not properly get a grip on the matter it will bring reproach onto the Borg, that you will moving to another state. Be firm, hand the letter over, walk away with head hung down in dispair to the door of the KH. While elders begin to fill out S-77/S-79 inside, skip to your car, get in drive off, whoop and holller, declare as loud as possible at 2nd intersection away from the KH, that you are
FREE AT LAST, FREE AT LAST, THANK GOD YOU ARE FREE AT LAST!
Since you have withdrew you membership, at a congo 4 or more hours away, and you have twice removed your pub card from your local congo, and told the Elders of the last congo your intentions to move out of state. Chances are pretty good that no one will hear about it locally. If quizzed by people who you don't wanna discuss you personal beliefs with, tell them "it personal" and drop the subject.
we saw an elder the other night trying to convince a couple of kids that they were ready to be unbaptized publishers.
and then he went and added that he was baptized very young and they should too.
so, these two kids were feeling the pressure.
All the kids in my congo (except me) were by their parents. Yep most were Df-ed or Reproofed.
I don't believe in child baptism, Jesus was 29 or about 30!