At least you finally cleard the air. I remember until I had the talk with my mother we just kept on dancing around the obvious elephant in the room. Now maybe you can just focus on the usual superficial topics....
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Finally confronted my mother...
by Caedes ini finally had the chance to talk to my mum about growing up as a witness and my thoughts on her religion, needless to say it didn't go well.
i don't think she has ever really worked out the implications are of what she believes, i pointed out that it is really difficult to relate to (and have a relationship with) someone who is looking forward to the day when her murderous little god kills her children.
i don't think she really understood the point i was making or didn't want to think about the point i was making.
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Have elders lost power they once had over the flock?
by Fisherman inthe wts still gives the elders the same authority over the cong as before but is the cong controlled as much by the elders?.
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Uesd to be that the elders had complete control. I've noticed recently that people are encouraged to use heir own conscience. Absolute control is no longer popular. People here used to always go to the elders with any little question about what to do or wear or say...I know for a fact they are discouraged to do that. But the DF fear is still great for many people. Especially those whose complete social circle are JW's...
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Canadian gets 3 years - sexual exploitation of girl while he was a JW elder
by Gopher inwendell willick was sentenced to prison last week for sexual abuse of a girl beginning in 1996 when the girl was 14. he was an elder at the time, but gave up being an elder a few years ago and left the jw's entirely in 2004. his lawyer gave some weasel words toward the bottom of this story that claimed willick wasn't acting in his capacity as an elder when the abuse occurred.
let there be no doubt, willick was an elder when this started and for many years while it was continuing.. http://www.canada.com/theprovince/news/story.html?id=9ab94717-9097-4894-a6bd-bf6e88d81203&k=74159.
jehovah's witness elder gets three years for sexual exploitationbetty ann adam, canwest news servicepublished: friday, november 09, 2007saskatoon -- a former jehovah's witness church elder has been sentenced to three years in prison for the sexual exploitation of a troubled teenage girl with whom he carried on a four-year relationship.. "our courts must send a clear message to every person in authority over a child that sexual contact with them will not be tolerated and will result in lengthy periods of imprisonment," justice marty popescul said friday at the saskatoon court of queen's bench.. wendell willick, 47, was counselling the girl at the behest of her parents - who were friends of willick through their church - during the period of the abuse, which began in 1996, when the girl was 14.. the court heard during a sentencing hearing that willick first had sexual intercourse with the girl when she was visiting his home on a weekend pass from a hospital psychiatric ward.. the victim, whose name is protected by a publication ban, was in the midst of a troubled adolescence.
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WTF????? three years for ruining that poor girls life??? I'm glad I live in South America. That guy would be sodomized his first five minutes in jail, while authorities watch....that's common protocol in latin jails...
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Why was I so blind?
by James Free innow that i can see right through the crap that is the jw religion, i sometimes ask myself - how come you blindly believed all that rubbish for 30 years??!!
i am so annoyed with myself for that - i have a degree, yet i was totally duped for such a large part of my life.
and now that i can see how so full of holes it all is, i kick myself for not seeing it before.
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Having been born into the religion I guess I didn't get alot of choice. Going to meetings, service just came naturally. Like brushing your teeth, taking a shower..Just habits formed. No real deep convition or belief. But I can't understand how family members who I consider intelligent can still believe...
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Your current favorite song??
by Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit inmine is who knew by pink.
heard it first at a funeral saturday-listen closely to the words, very fitting yet upbeat.
fab song & great album: i'm not dead.. .
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not a recent one but one that seems to be appropriate at the moment. Radiohead "Karma Police"
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Three Sisters Came by the house yesterday
by purplesofa ini saw a car pull up in the driveway.
i was at my computer trying to order some tickets from ticketmaster, having a hard time with some details.. then i saw one sister, two then three get out of the car......up to my door.. i had a towel on my head (just got done coloring my hair) new clothes pulled out in the living room for my grand daughter, she was laid out of the sofa watching hannah montana.........i looked like hell.
they, of course, all dressed up.. it was around two, and i figure they had been out in service and was finishing up their time.
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I hear ya sista! I had coffee with an old JW friend and while I was very interested in her life and she was in mine I found that are perspectives are so completely different now that it was irritating to talk with her. I mean, she's still waiting waiting waiting...for god to fix all her problems while she does nothing and sighs in the background.....I guess I've realized I've moved beyond that and she has not. Such a sad thing.
I hardly ever open my door for unexpected company unless it's family....
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Amazing Krut Vonnegut quote
by monophonic in"and lot's wife, of course, was told not to look back where all those people and their homes had been.
but she did look back, and i love her for that, because it was so human.
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yeah I love the human in us too!!! How could anybody relate to the OT god???
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God helped me get through it...
by LtCmd.Lore inor: "i couldn't have got through it without god's spirit.".
i hear it constantly, but i have no idea exactly what it's supposed to mean.
so if one of your relatives dies, and you pray for help: unless you die, or have a nervous breakdown you got through it, correct?
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If you accept that God has helped you in some special way, then you must also admit that he chose not to help some other bastard who got screwed over. And don't even get me started on how unethical it is if this were true to accept a blessing from God when you know someone who is suffering more than you is perhaps not recieving it because God was busy with your problem.
I am still open to believing in some higher power, but the God that intervenes in human life supposedly and is all powerful all inspiring, bla bla bla doesn't exist.
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PLEASE tell me I'm crazy!!!
by Elyse867 inso... hubby and i have been getting into discussions with a lot of people lately about the wts.
i want so bad to know what to believe... i don't believe that the 'truth' is the one true religion anymore, but i don't know what to believe anymore when it comes to certain things... what happens to you after you die, etc.
so, i've been praying a lot (i still believe in god) asking him to direct me somewhere, just give me something to believe in.
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I used to be one of those JW's who always prayed for help and then I would open a Watchtower and Awake and find this article on the exact same thing I was needing help in. I always thought my prayer had been answered. Until I stopped going to meetings altogether, and one day while waiting for a friend, I picked up a magazine for parents. I found three articles dealing with the exact issues I needed help with at the moment. I hadn't been praying for help or anything. But I stumbled on this magazine. Why? Because I was alert and was looking. Your oledr sister friend coincidentally was there and because you were open to talk with her you did and felt your prayer had been answered. But you were looking for your answer with the power of suggestion strongly instilled in you that you would find it in Jw's and now you feel you might have....The mind is a powerful thing. Can play many games on you.
One other thing I wanted to mention is that it's o.k. to not know what happens when we die. I felt so strongly about having these answers to tell my children, but then someone just point blank asked me..How do you know what happens when someone dies? No one knows with certainty...And they were absolutely right. It's o.k. not to have all the answers. I would prefer no true certain answers, to ficticious almost mythical like ones that in the end are downright lies. Wouldn't you?
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Time to simplify
by RollerDave infunny how life can be.. you chase your dreams, mean well, do your best to live large, and twist life bu the nipples; but there's only so many hours in a day, only so many days in a week, and only 365.25 days in a year.. i realize i'm swamped.
i find myself rolling around like a big fat chicken on wheels that has been separated from his head quite suddenly.. i think i have become the victim of my own success.. the more you have, the more maintenance and upkeep you have to procrastinate.. i'm only a man, i can only avoid so much work!.
barely got the boat winterized before the cold, evil fingers of minnesnowta's dominant season could work their frigid havoc, boy, i am starting to wonder if i am really 'boat people.
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Guess since I had my kids young, I always had the simplify idea. You will be much happier dedicating your time to what is important..Good luck!!