"And Lot's wife, of course, was told not to look back where all those people and their homes had been. But she did look back, and I love her for that, because it was so human."
Amazing Krut Vonnegut quote
by monophonic 9 Replies latest jw friends
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eclipse
Amazing!
Don't you just love how the witnesses villified her by imputing wrong motives on her part?
That she was greedy and was looking back at her home and possesions?
That's because that's what they would do, heartless bastards.
Great post, Monophonic
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Gopher
The Hebrew god Yahweh/Jehovah comes across in the account of Lot's family as jealous and insecure. And this is the "God of Love"? Bah. He's the God who wants you fixated on him. No wonder Jehovah's Witnesses love accounts like this. It perfectly fits their cultish mentality.
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nvrgnbk
Thank you so much for this, mono.
Some more great Vonnegut quotes:
Laughter and tears are both responses to frustration and exhaustion. I myself prefer to laugh, since there is less cleaning up to do afterward.
Say what you will about the sweet miracle of unquestioning faith, I consider a capacity for it terrifying and absolutely vile!
And for hillary_step...
Thanks to TV and for the convenience of TV, you can only be one of two kinds of human beings, either a liberal or a conservative.
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R.Crusoe
The OT is full of servant classes and ruling classes. Equality does not seem its focus! And some kings regarded as close to God were having new wives for every day of the week. I'm sure the king didn't earn his fortune 12 hours a day down a coal mine - so how was he so holy? And some of us have beaten ourselves up over knock knock knockin on heathens doors, singin' take this JW badge offa me, I don't need it anymore!
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mentalclearness
yeah I love the human in us too!!! How could anybody relate to the OT god???
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changeling
I've always had a soft spot for Lot's wife. Who wouldn't look back????
I also feel for Martha, Mary's sister. Little "goody two shoes" Mary got out of kitchen duty while Martha did all the work.
changeling
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steve2
I'm a little out of touch with Kurt Vonnegut's latest work, including novels, but I understand that - during the 1980s - Kurt Vonnegut's wife became a conservative Christian and that led to his questioning the negative impact of fundamentalist Christianity on normal human relationships.
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OnTheWayOut
Great quote there, Monophonic.
I liked this one too from NVR: Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before... He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way.
Is that why I am bitter? I had to work so hard, learning so much WT crap, then learning
real actual truths and values- just to realize I knew nothing. I have no resentment for the
ignorant non-JW, but the ignorant JW who never learned anything of his own religion who
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monophonic
wow, thanks steve2, i didn't know that about his wife.
his last book, i believe...can't remember the title off hand, was a great book of essays...oh, 'man without a country'.