I love Carol Carpenter's voice she is one of the best...so soothing relaxing, but only like a few of the songs, one interpretation was Solitare, love her soul in this.
fresia
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Do not put your trust in men [ except of course the governing body]
by jacethespace inhow often did we hear in the meetings, conventions,etc, the saying - do not put your trust in men but put your trust in god.anyone putting their trust in men are foolish but anyone putting their trust in god is wise.not once did anyone point out of course that in the watchtower its impossible to put your trust in god because in order to put your trust in god you have to first put your trust in the infallible, unquestionable governing body.i think that when we were told trust in jehovah, what they really meant was trust in the watchtower org and those untouchable 12 men at the top who interprets everthing.. of course if anyone had ever pointed that out we would have got that very spooky air of silence and then totally ignored like we wasnt there.
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fresia
The GB say they are not inspired or prophets, so the information they are saying is not from God then it is there point of view so if we don't agree with them how can we be reproved or disfellowshiped.
It makes my laugh when I think about the elders and how they say the GB apointed them, by holy spirit, so if the GB appointed them and the GB say they are not inspired or have no more holy spirit than the average b/s why should we be controlled by these men.
so they appoint each other. the holy spirit has been on a long holiday.
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Time for a new great schism, apostasy, falling away, dissension?
by Awakened07 in"nineteen fourteen - nineteen schmorsteen" ?.
we've had some threads about this, but it seems the general consensus is that they cannot change the 1914 date - it is what the entire organization rests it's doctrine on.. but why do we say that, really?
at one time (and for many, many years), the years 1799 and 1874 were pivotal dates to the bible students.
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fresia
I think they found out awhile back that is was all wrong, but decided to play the BS game until the end, rather than be honest with the flock. What really gets me is this lack of faith they have in those b/s that are in it because they love Jehovah, how blatantly egotistical of the GB to assume everyone is there because of them. There are some very in tune people that do know the bible in the congregations, not meaning so called spiritually mature elders either, most elders these days are organiztional mature or in the know, and will defend the org even when scriptual evidence says different.
I don't think they can play the game to much longer, and to say 1914 is wrong will be the end of the WTBTS but not nessesarily the end of the Jehovah's Witness. I believe there is a differnece, and may be a good thing if they do have a change on 1914 so many want it to seal the end of the evil slave. -
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LIGHT A CANDLE TODAY FOR LINDA & POST A PIC HERE
by rebel8 inis there something we can do for linda as a group?
purplesofa sent a nice card from jwd.
is there something else we can do to support her and trev right now?
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Favorite Stones song???
by bluesbreaker59 inok, because flipper brought up the beatles, i have to bring up the "anti- beatles".
i always preferred the rougher, raw edge of the stones, and the more guitar driven sound with a swaggering, swinging beat.. i'll go with tumbling dice, keith here was at the peak of his addictions and still came up with one of the coolest riffs.
anything from the micktaylor era is fabulous in my opinion, but sticky fingers and exile on main street are my favorite albums..
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If You Were Single, Would You Ever Date A Married or Separated Person?
by minimus inlately, i've seen more than a few unhappy couples go their own way and do their own thing.
one guy i know regularly dates women only on friday nights but comes home to his wife the rest of the time.
my impression is she doesn't want to know what he's doing------just as long as he comes home to her.. i know a state senator's wife who has 2 kids and she's miserable with her politician/lawyer husband but in public they look like the perfect couple.
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fresia
I have been caught out with this situation before, and would never try it again, sometimes they lie or exagerate the real circumstances and find it difficult to tell you the truth if they go back if they ever were seperated that is.
So no.
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Update: Last Nights Meeting
by FadingELD infirst of all i would like to think everyone for the support i recieved yesterday.
i would also like to shed some light on my past, hopefully this does not give it away as to who i might be.
my wife and i were both raised as jw, we were both baptized when were fifteen years old.
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fresia
not suppose to leave the marital bed only on the grounds of adultry otherwise you leave the other in danger of committing adultry...thats what the w/t teaches.
But I would give her space, respectfully as this would be a huge shock for her, maybe she saw the signs and was hoping it wouldn't come to this, but better to go than to pretend, I think that would do more damage to youre marraige, at least she should have some respect for you for being honest, and not lingering on with a phony suit on. I guess all circumastances are different. Hope things work out for both of you and youre sons.
Cheers
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Watchtower Secret Society....
by Sarah Smiles inhere is part of the posted watchtower on the wtbts .
secret groups in modern times have often been formed for quite honorable reasons, possibly for "social and benevolent purposes," according to the encyclopdia britannica, and "to carry out charitable and educational programs.
" some fraternal organizations, youth clubs, social clubs, and other groups are also secret, or at least semisecret.
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Most Jehovah's Witnesses are taught to keep their identity quiet
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You can't blame The Truth anymore.
by wanderlustguy insomeone related a story to me a couple of months ago over the last few days it sunk in.
there was a time it was so easy for me to get mad and angry and virtually meditate on how the organization systematically stripped me and so many of my loved ones of their lifethe life that could have been.
real love was replaced with a recipe of what love is, putting god first and then defining what the perception of god was supposed to be, to include a group of men directed by a corporation that decides who we can or cannot speak to, as well as who we can or cannot love in the common sense of the word.
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fresia
letting go of the org and letting go of Jehovah are different, the GB replaced Jesus and therefore denied Jehovah. ( he who denies the son denies God also) the creator (Yahweh or Jehovah) is not the org never has been.
those that put to much faith in the organization are hardest hit, only faith in Jesus and Jehovah is where happiness lies, if one can seperate that then I think the leaving is easier.
Jehovah does not equal the GB or WTS.
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MONEY MONEY MONEY GIVE GIVE GIVE!!!
by Gill inwell, it's that time of the year again!!!.
the november the 1st watchtower is demanding money from the r and f and in no uncertain terms makes it clear that no matter how poor they are they should be giving their money to one of the richest companys in brooklyn, the watchtower bible and tract society!!.
the 'inspiring' article on page 17 is entitled:.
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fresia
They are emotional parasites. When I think of some of those in need in my congregation that never get any help at all from the congregation and they are asked to do more to give more, even if their health is failing there is always some other b/s worst of and we should give of ourselves even more.
I give to my b/s personally and not in the contibution box anymore.