I literally threw most of them away. Most of them were in such poor condition that it was of no use trying to keep them or give them away. The ones that were still in serviceable condition (and by serviceable, I mean the pants are still in good shape with no holes in the seams or fabrics, and no big holes in the pockets and the jackets lacked major tears in the liner or obvious wear and damage in the outer layer), I simply washed (gentle cycle) and ironed carefully, and got them into a halfway decent appearance. Those still sit in my closet.
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What Did You Do With All Your Meeting Clothes?
by minimus ini literally had dozens of suits.
i still have more dress clothes than anyone i know.
i did give some suits and clothing away and to be honest, i still like wearing a nice suit.. brothers and sisters, are all your “ meeting clothes” still in your closet?
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DFed for opening an xmas present.
by JimmyYoung inthis last week i stopped at an antique store that i go to now and then.
the lady who owns it is about 62 and very nice.
i was looking at a vintage 1963 ouija board.
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WTWizard
Opening a present is not, by itself, an act of worship to the sun (as they claim celebrating Christmas is--and its roots are, in fact, part of celebrating the rebirth of the sun). But, if the hounders rule it as "brazen conduct", they could get you for "brazen conduct". Even going online could be "brazen conduct" if they nag you once for it, even if it is common in the congregation that everyone else is encouraged to do it.
In fact, any act could be termed "brazen conduct". One could be disfellowshipped, for instance, on "brazen conduct" charges if they are asked to learn Spanish for field circus, and instead they decided to learn German. Or even refusing to learn Spanish is enough, if they decide it is "brazen conduct".
Think that is bad? When Noahide Law is in full effect, the authorities in charge could decide that anything could be "tying into energy outside joke-hova" or "blaspheming god". By going along with this "brazen conduct" rule, they are preparing the astral, and the congregation, for full imposition of Noahide Law. Just as harmless at first appearance, just as deceptive, and then they wonder why I will not go to boasting sessions. Or why I "disfellowshipped" the whole religion, and joke-hova itself, for this deceptive practice.
At least with Sharia Law, as bad as it is, what you see is all you get.
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The Apology Tour
by minimus ineveryone seems to be hitting the apology circuit.
if you ever said anything inappropriate or what might be considered offensive, then you must apologize.
if you possibly could have hurt someone’s feelings, you need to say sorry.
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WTWizard
Being sorry because you tell the truth is not what I deem appropriate. The truth offends those who depend on lies to continue with their work on imposing Noahide Law, which this whole political correctness rubbish is leading to. And, as a reminder, one of the Noahide Laws is against complaining about those who are oppressing you and everyone else--under the guise of "blasphemy".
And, if you are "sorry" for one "offense", they will continue creating other "offenses" until we are all fully under the strictest interpretation of Noahide Law. This means anything enjoyable will potentially be banned, because you are connecting to an energy other than joke-hova (and violating the law against idolatry in doing so). This means no more favorite TV shows, movies, or songs. No more video games (not even older video games, pinball, pool, or bowling--since they can tie into energy from a bygone era or develop new skills to get better at such games, again violating the law against idolatry). No more holidays--they connect with your past and honor Demons. No more astrology, not even the sun sign. No more visiting foreign places (to connect with said energy). No more nothing.
If this is what you want, just keep being sorry for every trivial offense. Just keep being sorry for telling the truth (remember also, if we applied this just one step earlier, many of us would still be knocking on doors as jokehovian witlesses). Just keep trying to follow that bible and imposing bible principles on others. You will, in doing so, be giving them more energy to enforce Noahide Laws and make it even worse.
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Hourglass app
by solomon inall of the local congregations are going to use hourglass app for publishers to report their time.
i’m not sure if this meets privacy laws in our province.
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With all the financial constraints and drains imposed by this religion, what about those who still do not have smart (??) phones? Those things do cost a good deal of money--even the off-brand units are around 200 toilet papers plus a service contract. This service contract is what really eats your money--you could be looking at another 180 per month for service. And this number is more realistic than the plans starting at $39.95 per month when you factor in the data usage imposed by streaming those washtowel videos.
Then, once the whole Internet goes down, how are they going to report their time with these apps? (Which they are helping to happen every time they open up that bible to preach and spread those lies to others.) I can only wonder if they are going to be using the brain RFID chip, again made possible with the psychic energy donated by those idiots using and spreading their bibles (that energy you get drained of has to go somewhere, and that is where it goes). And, once that thing is mandatory (the more people using their bibles, the faster it will happen), the whole jokehovian platform will be moot as we will all be under Noahide Law anyways.
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2020 Memorial Talk points for "interested persons" to raise.
by The Fall Guy in1) "what jesus gave was equal to what adam had lost—a perfect human life.".
jesus said that he came as a ransom, (matthew 20:28) but according to jw dogma, jesus' ransom gained far more than what was lost – 144,000 immortal king/priests in heaven to be precise!
adam was never going to produce such super-human offspring!
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WTWizard
Benefit? From that worthless sacrifice for some made-up or contrived "sin"? Just another classic case where we pay forever for a single event, real or fictitious. And, since there seems to be an infinite number of sources for this sort of indebtedness, I refuse to attend this--I would benefit more from learning a foreign language if the program was in that language than from the worthless fictitious sacrifice for a fictitious "sin".
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2020 Memorial Talk Outline!
by Atlantis in2020 memorial talk outline.. https://docdro.id/73bh2yg.
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WTWizard
This is a good place to go--that is, if you want to help the reptilians impose Noahide Law or make it even worse when it comes. That is what this whole event is supposed to do--you are donating your spiritual energy toward this thing. Anyone else remember going only to find themselves drained after, for no good reason? That's where the energy went.
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How Much of the WT Teaching Did You Believe?
by Ding insome people on this forum have said that they never really believed any aspect of wt teaching, that they couldn't wait to get free of it all.. others seems to have been really gung ho, believing it all until something happened that got you questioning "the truth.".
i would say my own high water mark was about 50%, which put me squarely on the fence, trying to decide if i should be in or out.. how about you?.
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WTWizard
I believed the basics in the Suffer Forever book when I studied that rubbish. But, I could not believe why fornication between consenting adults violates the rights of both parties, and once they started blatantly lying, I began to wonder. (And by blatantly lying, telling people to donate for stuff before placing it and then donating the money the householders gave is not double donating when it is).
But, worse than that was that joke-hova came off as demanding more than was sustainable. This was supposed to be a life course, not a 3-day event. Preaching as if it was the last few days is reckless if you could have years or more to go. It is also reckless to give up so much for this work, as if it was only a few more days. It might be reasonable to quit your job and give up recreation for a couple of days, but not for possibly 20 years or more. And, all other things occupying the bare minimum time--that is not balanced. And putting up barriers for all fulfillment is just not acceptable, especially for the long haul.
And why would someone that was blatantly evil (such as those communist leaders or bankers that stole their way into power to impose Noahide Law) but never had jokehovians call on them survive Armageddon or receive resurrections while I had to abide by the strictest interpretation of the jokehovian rules because I was taught that way? I can only hope that depp that brought me in that way has trouble understanding German the next time I see that thing--because that is all it will be getting. An explanation of how needlessly strict it was, that it destroyed all prospect of my living a normal life even under their own theocracy, and that the whole thing is to donate energy to the reptilians to enslave us all under Noahide Law, all in German.
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10 Year Growth Chart
by HiddenPimo inhere are some visuals to help show what is going on with the jw numbers game.
i am not a numbers guy and there maybe a few errors (info directly from grand total pages on jw.borg).
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I wonder how many would be "in" if only those who, according to their own theology, would survive Armageddon. Out of those fake numbers, quite a few are lying or have someone lying on their behalf, with or without consent. Others are being forced, under threat of having their lives ruined, to turn in monthly time (fake or not). Remember, to survive Armageddon under their theology, one must be doing all they can (and not "reasonably"--absolutely) each month, and it has to be sincere. Also, they cannot be doing things that are questionable, or continue displaying a grudging attitude or wishing they could do things others can without thinking.
This means only those who are doing all they possibly can (reasonable or not), out of their free will and without any presumption of reward, are not longing for "things of the world", and are not practicing anything that might bring shame on the organization or joke-hova, and that genuinely believe the whole theology no matter what, should be counted. That would be a more accurate measure of how many will, according to their theology, be around. Granted, those who do major sins but are truly sorry (and open to joke-hova's curses) can still be among those numbers. But, I would estimate the true number to be closer to 800,000 (yes, only 6 figures) using those criteria.
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Another High School Shooting ... Santa Clara California
by RubaDub inat least at the moment it looks like no one is dead, but 6 injured (9:00 am pacific time 14 nov 2019).. i don't know if the school allows students to carry weapons, but many will think it would be a good idea for the students to carry concealed weapons to provide personal protection.. we shall see.. rub a dub.
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WTWizard
No matter what, people will get their guns illegitimately. Some use these in an effort to get legal guns banned, often lying about the legality of their guns to do this. They go in and shoot up a place, often with stolen or otherwise illegally obtained guns, and then they jump on this as a reason why guns should be banned. When they succeed, it will be ridiculously easy for the government to enforce Noahide Law without worry.
I remember a line on the All in the Family show trailer they used for an advertisement for that show. The daughter discusses the number of people killed by guns. Archie Bunker retorted "Would it make you feel better if they were pushed out of windows?" Guns are not the only weapons that can be used to kill mass numbers of people--it is actually more efficient to use bombs or flammable liquids than guns. (Not that I recommend that, either--you will probably pay with your life.) But, they use guns so they can disarm the public, making it easier for criminals and tyrants (who will get their guns regardless) to safely do their jobs.
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JWs: No Infant Baptism! (just children)
by neat blue dog inhere's a new article that came out:.
do jehovah’s witnesses baptize infants?no.
the bible does not endorse infant baptism.
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Given how sinister baptism is, I think the minimum age should be at least 21. This is not something you can discontinue, as a sex relationship. Once you dedicate to putting your soul into something this unnatural, something this detrimental to your well being and that of the planet, something this geared to enslaving the whole earth under Noahide Law, you are stuck with it. Trying to back out results in the hounders pulling you back in, and they will not take "No" for an answer. Either you get disfellowshipped and your life ruined that way, or they will find some way to force you back in at some point.
Not to mention the trouble you get into with Satan and the Gods. No, not possession and harassment (the angels do that), but they will simply cast you off and leave you to joke-hova (who will harass you). Anything under at least 21 is not old enough to understand that fully. Even their false jesus, who had nothing to lose by getting on Satan's bad side because Satan already hated that archetype of the perfect slave, waited until age 30 according to their own bible and theology. The model slave waiting until 30? Why are they baptizing 6 year olds then?