Another High School Shooting ... Santa Clara California

by RubaDub 34 Replies latest jw friends

  • RubaDub

    At least at the moment it looks like no one is dead, but 6 injured (9:00 AM Pacific time 14 Nov 2019).

    I don't know if the school allows students to carry weapons, but many will think it would be a good idea for the students to carry concealed weapons to provide personal protection.

    We shall see.

    Rub a Dub

  • staypuft

    Santa Clarita, not Santa Clara.

  • RubaDub

    Santa Clarita, not Santa Clara.

    staypuft ...

    I stand corrected. Yes, Santa Clarita.

    Thank you.

    (unfortunately, I just heard that there is at least one child dead, so sad)

    Rub a Dub

  • Spiral

    The off-shoot effects of gun culture in the US, along with the emotional issues that seem prevalent in our culture, have run off the rails. So sad.

  • hoser

    We don’t have a gun problem, we have a bullying problem.

  • cofty
    many will think it would be a good idea for the students to carry concealed weapons to provide personal protection

    Arming young men with underdeveloped prefrontal cortexes is a recipe for carnage.

    Armed guards in every American school is surely a good move. Do most/all banks in the USA have guards? Are children more valuable than bank notes?

  • LV101

    If the banks have armed guards I've not noticed but I'm sure they've someone on alert. Tellers do stand behind walled bullet proof glass. My husband has been in bank line with robber standing a man right behind him (before the closed off glass sections) and recently on grocery store errand with hold up at the small inside bank a few feet away from check out he was standing at - no protective glass for tellers which is not good.

    Schools need serious security -- they don't have problems inside the gaming venues/casinos any more because of cameras everywhere and trained security guards walking around and watching overhead all gaming and everything else. I've family member who is in school administration - you can't believe the threats the principals receive.

  • Biahi

    Unfortunately, this is what’s happening in the US. Metal detectors may deter some of this. And, you are correct, hoser, bullying needs to be stopped.

  • Giordano

    I like simple solutions that offer the best approach and greatest proven level of safety.

    You do what we started to do when schools, back in the old days would catch fire.

    We built schools to be fire proof. Used non flammable materials, practiced fire drills. Good communications with the authorities. Working Fire hoses on every floor and every section......and alarms.

    School shootings are a different caliber of a disaster. But we know a lot more now then we did back ten or twenty years ago.

    You start with fortifying ways to stop a car from driving into the school lobbies It's not expensive to put those concrete crash guards in front of school lobbies.

    Cameras in all hallways with an immediate connection to the police so their swat teams or first responders can understand where the shooter is....... etc.

    Bullet proof materials for all class room doors and locks that can be bolted shut from inside the classroom.

    A way for each class to report to the school office or speak directly with the police.......... reporting where the shooter(s) is or heading to.

    School teachers carrying guns......only those volunteers with former military or police training. Only those who will volunteer their off time to work with the police during the summer or holidays on how to keep their students safe. How to defend or blockade every thing that would be necessary to keep students secure including training in first aid and the equipment needed.

    And finally it would not be a bad idea to offer the police a free school breakfast or lunch or afternoon snack and designated police only bathrooms. You see cops having a meal in the lunch room or cop cars in the parking lot it sends a message. We serve and protect.

    Stop and think how it would have changed the attack if two or three police officers were in the school. If they were so familiar with the school that they would understand immediately, if they heard that a shooter was on such and such hallway and their actual location.

  • smiddy3

    An armed guard in every school seems like a good idea it makes more employment opportunities and maybe the cost could be offset by either slightly more higher school fees or maybe a tithe/fee for every students household to help cover the costs.

    Kids lives do matter don`t they ?

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