i've been studying with the jw's for a few months and i've attended a few meetings but things are feeling somewhat strange...i don't quite get the jist of things but i feel that i'm learning more of what the watchtower teachers and less of what the bible actually says.. i never open my bible.. i'm always reading the watchtower pamphlets.
i really like the people i've met in the congregation and the guy thats been doing the studies with me has been an awesome friend.. .
but i'm just having some issues.. i mean.. they translated their own bible to suit their own doctrines it seems.
Welcome back... I was one of those who responded to your "other"post. Sorry if we overwhelmed you.
It's good that you are still here.
Is the David Reed book, The "Index of Watchtower Errors" ?
I will post a proper response in a few hours - have to go to work :-(
PARAGRAPHS -
Other than that I am out of ideas.
nwt scriptures: john 20:28-29 .
28 in answer thomas said to him: my lord and my god!
29 jesus said to him: because you have seen me have you believed?
Frank
I find that the only way to loosen the grip of the WT overbearing control on people is to those peopls that the WT isn't always corrent in its "scholarship and motive". That then opens the door for people to feel okay about thinking for themselves.
AO
AO:
Not easily done as this thread proves. The WT has some powerful voodoo!
Frank75
No, not easily done, but one of the JWs that I study with is showing the signs
nwt scriptures: john 20:28-29 .
28 in answer thomas said to him: my lord and my god!
29 jesus said to him: because you have seen me have you believed?
Heathen,
I know that you were "countering" what I said. All the same, even if my ideas are wrong, it goes to show that the WT writers know as much about Biblical Greek as I do.
If Satan is also referred to as "Ho Theos" in the NT then the WT idea that "Ho Thoes" always points to "Jehovah" falls to pieces.
as I said...
Sometimes here I forget that I am not only posting to those of a JW mindset (or now liberated ex-JWs) and usually post with as though "debating" with the usual JW dogma.
My point was that if the JW argument about "Ho Theos" were correct, then it falls to pieces in the face of John 20:28 (and also that Satan quote).
I find that the only way to loosen the grip of the WT overbearing control on people is to those peopls that the WT isn't always corrent in its "scholarship and motive". That then opens the door for people to feel okay about thinking for themselves.
AO
i know someone posted it a while back, but haven't been able to find it.
any help would be much appreciated..
Friday, Saturday and Sunday (hopefully in order)
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/134993/1.ashx
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/135146/1.ashx
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/135082/1.ashx
Additional bits
enjoyhttp://www.mediafire.com/?8rgm1ewmy2o
This one is a little different.
does your real-life experience and what you observe in nature lead you to the same conclusions that are presented as fact in the bible?
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or do you believe because of the power of suggestion?.
I guess that they referred to the scriptures that became known as "The Old Testament". As in the case of the Berreans and many others.
As to how they substiancianted their claims about the deeds of Christ - who knows? Maybe the miracles and word of mouth meant that they story spread on it's own among believers and non believers alike.
Without looking it up, I believe that several people at the time who were not believers wrote about the works and miracles of Jesus.
Any help ?
regarding worldly associations:.
"the worst jw in the org.
is better than the best person in the world..".
I also remember the saying.."a bird in the hand....shits on your wrist"
found these at youtube.. http://www.youtube.com/user/hizbrowneyez.
hope it hasn't been posted before.. so put a copy of watchtower on your seat, pop off to the kitchen and make a flask of coffee.
then come back to your securely reserved seat and pretend that you are there.. ao.
Too true... not to mention having a notebook and a large supply of pens at the ready.
does your real-life experience and what you observe in nature lead you to the same conclusions that are presented as fact in the bible?
.
or do you believe because of the power of suggestion?.
JamesThomas...
I being the "collective" I
Okay words fail now so here are some pictures...
JamesThomas...
NVR...
Sorry. AO's an imposter! No Christian talks like that. LOL!I accept what you say and I like your style.
Cute !
There are some of us around. But to make you feel more comfortable with the typical "Christian Output", here is your picture...
Sad Emo - Instead of a picture, you have a PM
i have a bread machine and lately its been squeaking so i sprayed wd40 on the mechanism... and now the whole house smells like parafin and my bread is probably ruined.
so i sprayed WD40 on the mechanism...
What on the little spinny round flipper thing ?
I sprayed my bicycle chain with WD40 once - it ruined every pair of trousers that I wore on it for about a month !
