STILL TOTALLY ADD- You are very welcome my friend, glad to be there for anybody exiting this damaging organization. We all needed support when we exited, and some folks never received support at all since all their relatives were JW's. We all help each other. Take care, Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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The biggest news of the year for Mr. and Mrs. Totally ADD
by Still Totally ADD inthis is bigger than christmas and birthdays wrap into one.
thanks to the australian royal commission our youngest son has woke up.
we received a e-mail from him tonight where he apologized to us for shunning us all these years, how bad he felt for doing this.
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Re: the woman parking attendants and real life
by carla inwith much amusement i read the thread on women parking lot attendants and it got me to thinking about life at home for the average jw.. i believe i am correct in thinking that anything to do with jw-ism requires a penis, except all the leg work (fs & pioneers).
meaning the mic's, talks, etc... but yet the same guy who thinks his wife (or any other woman) is not bright enough to run the sound system for example doesn't mind his wife hauling hay, digging in the yard, managing the checkbook and other various physical jobs as well as jobs that do in fact require a brain larger than that of a gnat?.
let's say a guy is a bit technologically challenged but he can manage the sound system at the kh ok. i imagine he feels proud that he is getting to do this great privilege?
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CARLA- Great thread. How JW men justify their views in one word is called DENIAL>
de Nile ain't just a river ! lol. I knew so many JW pompous men , mostly elders who considered themselves " legends in their own minds " - who thought they knew everything, but treated their JW wives like dirt. When in fact, as you say those JW wives many times were much more brilliant and accomplsished than their husbands.
Another thing that causes this justification of " superiority " within JW men is the WT indoctrination they get from the top of the organization. It's drilled into them to look at themselves as " the head " of the woman- right or wrong, good or bad. WT Society even drills into their heads about " believing " women who try to " win over their unbelieving husbands " by being " submissive " . So this whole submission crap is a patriarchal, Bible thumping that even mainstream religions install into brain neurotransmitters of " Christian " communities, including JW's.
It's such a farce and crock of shit because many a man on this planet has USED this indoctrination to abuse women emotionally, mentally, physically, and sexually. And it's absolutely tragic. Just another big reason I am not a Christian. Not only do men abuse this authority in families, but they abuse it in many different kinds of organizations- whether it be political, religious, business organizations. It truly is a rampant problem in our society. And they are losing lots of young people in the JW organization these days due to the archaic old time views. Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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People are nice and life is awesome.
by OneEyedJoe ini got invited as a +1 to someone's house yesterday to watch the fireworks.
i'd never met the hosts, and it seemed that most of the people in the group only knew one or two other people there.
yet i felt more genuine friendship from everyone there than i ever felt at any jw gathering.
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ONE EYED JOE- Your opening post on your thread is SOOO...... true. I've experienced the same thing these last 15 years of being out . So many nice people out in the real world. Of course there are assholes too, and a person has to be careful, but for the most part people are far less judgmental than any of the JW's I use to attend kingdom halls with. People see us for who we REALLY are as a person, not who they WANT us to be, and at least that's one major difference. Real, sincere people don't try to manipulate us and mold us into somebody we are not. They accept us for who we are and what we bring to the table in ways of conversations, viewpoints, etc.
I'm glad you had a great time ! Cool ! Take care buddy, Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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The biggest news of the year for Mr. and Mrs. Totally ADD
by Still Totally ADD inthis is bigger than christmas and birthdays wrap into one.
thanks to the australian royal commission our youngest son has woke up.
we received a e-mail from him tonight where he apologized to us for shunning us all these years, how bad he felt for doing this.
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FORMER2FREE- Hey guy, please check your private messages on the board here. I just sent you one a few minutes ago. Thanks ! Hope to hear back from you via private message. Take care, Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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The biggest news of the year for Mr. and Mrs. Totally ADD
by Still Totally ADD inthis is bigger than christmas and birthdays wrap into one.
thanks to the australian royal commission our youngest son has woke up.
we received a e-mail from him tonight where he apologized to us for shunning us all these years, how bad he felt for doing this.
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FORMER2FREE- VERY nice to have you here my friend . I've chatted with your dad & mom on the phone before and consider them dear, dear people. I live out in Northern California and some day me and my wife would like to meet them, and you as well !
I was born & raised in it like yourself - exited at age 44 almost 15 years ago. Believe me after you exit the JW's- " the light gets brighter and brighter " - no pun intended, well maybe a little bit. But my dad was a well known elder out here, my older brother was in Bethel 8 years, I'm the only one out of 4 siblings that escaped the WT asylum. Especially when I started seeing it was lunatics running the asylum.
Hang in there. It will be a challenge with your in laws and wife & kids. A little word of caution just show them love and don't try to lay all these things you've learned about the WT Society on them- because due to still being under the influence of mind control they won't understand and will get angry, thus escalating tensions needlessly. I'm sure others have mentioned this on this thread, I haven't read all 10 pages yet word for word. But hey man !
Welcome ! And keep on educating yourself and researching the Internet to verify that what you are feeling is true within yourself. Let yourself feel angry, sad, or however you need to vent, we are here as a support for you. Been there, done this - many of us have here. Take care buddy, Peace out, Mr. Flipper My wife Mrs. Flipper says " hi " as well !
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Why didn't I leave back then???
by silentbuddha insunday my old bethel roommate came up to visit me.
he left a couple years ago and he wanted to catch up and reminisce.. while we sat back remembering crazy things we saw take place at bethel he reminded me of a creepy instance with bro.
swingell.. it was a saturday morning and we decided to actually go get breakfast.
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SILENTBUDDHA- Well I guess old Lyman was prejudiced ! That's really sick. I'm so sorry to read that Ronnie Klineman experienced this awful treatment. So obviously Lyman wasn't as funny as I thought. Another human with prejudiced attitudes. Very sad. Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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Why didn't I leave back then???
by silentbuddha insunday my old bethel roommate came up to visit me.
he left a couple years ago and he wanted to catch up and reminisce.. while we sat back remembering crazy things we saw take place at bethel he reminded me of a creepy instance with bro.
swingell.. it was a saturday morning and we decided to actually go get breakfast.
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SILENTBUDDHA-What a creepy video, thanks for sharing ! lol.
I know some EX-JWs who knew Lyman Swingle very well. The poster named Farkel who died about 4 years ago used to date Lyman Swingles daughter years ago ! LOL. I had lunch with Farkel several times before he died. He said Lyman Swingle probably had the best sense of humor of the GB way back then and actually at times would think outside of the GB box. Perhaps that explains in part why he would show up at breakfast in a kimono. LOL. Real comedian I heard. Take care, Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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How do you feel you have progressed ?
by stuckinarut2 inin the months or years since leaving the organization, how do you think you have progressed as a person?.
(or if you have regressed too i guess?).
what aspects of personal development are you happy with?.
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STUCKINARUT- Great thread, thanks for posting - and thanks for asking !
Like Desirous of Change and his wife- I feel a whole lot better on Saturday & Sunday mornings these last 15 years that I've been out of the JW cult. I have a lot more time to pursue interests and hobbies like writing songs, playing guitar, Mrs. Flipper and I have a great kick ass vegetable garden growing, about 1200 sq.ft garden with tomatoes, squash, potatoes, blueberries, raspberries, peppers, basil, green beans, peach tree, artichokes, plum tree, and pear tree. Plus lots of cool flowers and herbs. We really enjoy it.
As a person I've grown in that I have a much better sense of self now. My self esteem has risen very much since not being browbeaten with how " sinful " I'm supposed to feel all the time ! lol. I actually don't ever have any feelings of guilt anymore and I've lost quite a bit of the fear I used to have as a JW. Nothing much scares me anymore. I can stand up to anybody at any level and show respect , and if I don't get that back in return, well- that's THEIR problem not mine.
I don't waste my time on fruitless relationships anymore that bring psychological vampires into my life who only have selfish interests at heart and not my interests at heart. The quality of my friendships has blossomed and the true friends I have now- they know that I care as much about them as they do for me. I never had those equal types of friendships in the JW cult, friendships were always conditional on me performing WT functions. When we stop doing WT functions, we lose all the fake friends we had ! lol.
Life is a beautiful journey, and I've learned to stop and smell every rose along the way while on that journey ! HI have a lovely wife, a fantastic son & daughter in law that I'm close to , and life is wonderful in the big picture. Of course I miss my JW daughters and it hurts they shun me and are still in the cult, but hope burns eternal that it will change someday. Take care, Peace out. Mr. Flipper
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Jehovah's Witnesses: shame and domination
by john.prestor ini want to suggest something that i've been ruminating on for a while now.
that involves the possibility that when jehovah's witnesses look for "sheep-like ones" what they're actually looking for is this: those who will allow themselves to be dominated (get rid of things that god "hates," accept the movement's beliefs without protest, not check into the movement's history) and those who are willing to be shamed (letting jehovah's witnesses into their homes when doing so is looked down upon in secular society, talking with them on the street when everyone else avoids them).. i say this because from what i observed at the kingdom halls i attended in the course of gathering data for my research i saw:.
-frequent shaming: jehovah's witnesses must do more to be acceptable to god, they are "good for nothing slaves," they are spared through armageddon by jehovah's "undeserved kindness," etc.
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Good thread. All mind control cults like the JW's and WT Society use fear and guilt to shame their members and give them extremely low self esteem whereby JW's or other cult members are put down for ANY personal accomplishments that are not benefiting the WT organization or cult itself. It's criminal how these organizations steal away any self worth in individuals. Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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Happy Anniversary, Mom and Dad
by charonsdog intoday, july 1, i wrote what has become my annual contact with my parents.
it is their 51st wedding anniversary.
i e-mail them from across the world where i now live to let them know that i haven't forgotten them, i still love them, and that i'm doing okay.
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CHARONSDOG- I'm very sorry to hear that you have been experiencing this. Me too. You're not alone buddy, many of us are experiencing this. Please accept this virtual hug from one that goes through this every day of my life as well. Hang in there, we understand. Peace out, Mr. Flipper