Posts by flipper

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QFR - Posting JW publications on a personal website/social media

by Listener in

the following is a qfr from the april, 2018 watchtower.

just a couple of articles back the organization was explaining how jws need to be encouraging and even when admonishing congregations jesus would start out with encouraging words.

we see none of this in the qfr, rather, it is heavy handed and legally incorrect.. why is it not permissible to post publications of jehovah’s witnesses on a personal website or on social media?.

flipper

This is very big. Thanks for posting this info.

Translation : Message from WT Society : " Brothers and sisters , it is NOT permissible to post publications of Jehovah's Witnesses on a personal website or on social media - because our teachings and beliefs are bat shit crazy enough on JW.org. We can control what's said there- we cannot control what's done on other personal or social media . Our spiritual food is contaminated enough as it is- it will REALLY get contaminated if Satan's media gets a hold of it ! "

Wow. WT leaders are definitely running scared though. " An online forum is not an appropriate setting for " instructing with mildness those not favorably disposed. "

Translation from WT : Because they'll change your mind about the " truth " and cause doubts to arise and we can't have that - so for the love of Jehovah - PLEASE only look at JW.org. O.K. ? " lol.

But hey- A big thumbs up to all of us EX-JW's out here ! WE should be proud of what we are accomplishing in waking people's minds up- obviously inroads are being made inside these congregations and JW's minds to start looking elsewhere for answers other than the official WT website. And that's a good thing. WT leaders hate and detest anything that they cannot control. And they cannot control access to information on the Internet. It's a beautiful thing. lol

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Did man really go to the moon?

by atomant in

l have researched this subject and come to the conclusion that no we didn't.what do others think?.

flipper

" Did man really go to the moon " ?

Do chickens lay eggs ? Does a bear shit in the woods ? Is Trump a narcissist ?

I mean what kind of question IS this ? Is this a trick question ? Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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Scotland

by Jrjw in

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hi does anyone on here live in scotland?

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flipper

A lot of my ancient ancestors on my mom's side were from Scotland in the 1700's and before. A lot from England and Scotland. The countryside is so beautiful in Scotland. It's one place I'd put on my bucket list down the road if I get a chance to visit while still on this planet alive. Would love to have a drink with some of you Scottish friends here on the board. Take care, Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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Annoying jws

by Jrjw in

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a 'concerned' jw in my congregation rang me earlier and said she's noticed my daughter sits miserable at the meetings and said she's a right miserable girl in general.

i said she's happy and hyper when she's not at the meetings they're just really boring and she doesn't want to be there.

apparently i'm a bad parent coz she feels that way.

flipper

JRJW- Sorry to hear that you have this emotional vampire of a sister in the congregation trying to suck the emotional life blood of your energy out. These people criticize us then try to bring the hatchet down on us by running to the elders claiming " I'm so concerned about sister so and so " when really they are just crossing our personal boundaries being busybody's .

I went through this a lot when I was in the organization over 14 years ago. Mostly from elders who wanted to snoop into my personal life as a single JW father - even though I was taking my teenage kids out in service averaging 20 hours a month in service ! I was doing the best I could , but they just wouldn't stop . Finally I stopped taking their harassing phone calls and they eventually stopped bugging me.

I think a person that's being harassed by these intrusive JW's just needs to disconnect from and not engage these nosy people and ignore them. Otherwise they'll keep crossing our personal boundaries. To most JW's - there is no such thing as having personal boundaries as they are told to rat each other out in the name of " Jehovah " and " keeping the congregation clean " . They think they get some kind of " brownie button " or score points with God for being our own " spiritual police men " . But it's annoying as hell, I'll tell you what. LOL. Take care my friend, don't engage them ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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Girls are unpredictable, materialist, and use us, men, as a toy - Part 3

by will-be-apostate in

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a year ago i had a rough time and posted this .

it was a controversial topic, some people got offended by my overly boastful tone, others offered help.

i appreciate any kind of opinion and i try to correct the flaws in my personality.

flipper

WILL-BE-APOSTATE- Wow ! It sounds as if you've been your own therapist and taught yourself a lot this last year or so ! And that's a good thing ! Yeah man, don't be too hard on yourself my friend- after we exit the Jehoho religion we all go on a learning curve because being trapped inside a cult - many of us didn't develop proper social etiquette. So you're doing well ! You've come a long way. Wake Me Up is right- it takes a lot of personal honesty to admit to the things you just wrote in public- and I admire you for that.

So yeah, that being said , as you mentioned there are great people in the real world and there are manipulative people out in the world of both sexes. We all have to be careful who we get involved with out there. Sounds like you've found some really great friends now who have your best interests at heart. Pretty cool. Keep up the great work ! Hey, I've been out of the JW's over 14 years now, and I'll be learning things the rest of my life ! To me- that's one of the many things that life is- one great big learning process. Have a great 2018 my friend ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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A Former Jehovah's Witness shares her me too story

by LisaRose in

https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/12/16/a-former-jehovahs-witness-shares-her-metoo-story/.

when i was 23 years old, i started dating a (jehovah’s) witness boy and we’d go out to some dance clubs.

there was a night in particular where i had too much to drink.

flipper

LISA- Thanks for relating this posters story. What a horrific experience she went though ! Sick. What's even sicker is the perpetrator threatening to go to the elders and maligning her character. Just disgusting. Sadly this is what women are facing everywhere when coming forward with sexual assault charges against unscrupulous men who are more concerned about saving their tainted reputations than admitting guilt . I hope life has been kinder to her in the years later than when she was 19 years old

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Your favorite teacher?

by compound complex in

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"a teacher affects eternity; he can never tell where his influence stops.

" -- henry adams.

were both your mind and heart touched by a particular teacher?.

flipper

My favorite teacher ? Life experiences . Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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What Made You Decide To Finally Leave The Organization?

by minimus in

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was there one certain event or was it more a cumulative thing?.

flipper

Injustices committed against not only myself but other JW's inside the organization. And once I escaped the WT organization- seeing the injustices brought against child abuse victims and their families confirmed I made the right decision to leave several years later. There were several other things that helped me decide to leave- but the catalyst was injustices committed by elders in the cult

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Intro

by jc1985 in

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hello all, many years i have been lurking on this site.

gradually i’ve learned the real truth, gone from serving as a servant and at bethel to inactive for almost a year, barely ever wasting time going to meetings.

my family is large and very active and so is my wife’s so leaving altogether is difficult.. though it seems now that everything is about to change.

flipper

JC1985- I'm very sorry to hear that your marriage is going down. I had that happen to me as well with my JW wife many years ago and divorced in the late 1990's. But you will live to love again another day sometime in the future. Life is like that. Changes in life bring both negative , but surprisingly enough, many positive changes as well. Like John Lennon stated, " Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans . " So true.

As Wasanelder and others said, we are here for you as a support offering our friendship to you if you ever want to talk. Check your private mail here in awhile, I'm sending you my contact information so we can chat sometime if you'd like. Hang in there friend, we feel what you are going through and many here, including myself have gone through this. Check your PMs. Take care, Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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1st month of fading

by Jrjw in

i'm nearly at the end of my first month of becoming inactive.

only my daughter knows.

i've had a cold half of the month so no questions or pressure has been put on me yet.

flipper

I agree with Wasanelderonce. In my opinion the best way to exit the JW's is to just either fade quietly or stop cold turkey without any bells and whistles. If you're going to stop attending meetings anyway- what would be the reason to transfer any " publisher record cards " ? All that does is put you on the radar of the elders in your new congregation and they'll come knocking on your door - bugging you.

I understand the wanting to maintain friendships thing- however- once you stop attending meetings - you are going to find out who your true and real friends are anyway. As you exit JW organization you need to surround yourself with supportive friends who will have your back- not conditional friends who will stomp on you at the drop of a hat, or the drop of your meeting attendance. Sounds like your daughter is supportive of you, and that's a great start.

We are here as well in support of you, so if you ever need to communicate via E-mail or telephone, my wife and I offer our friendship as well. Hang in there, I know it's tough, many of us have dealt with this, it's all part of escaping the control of the WT Society regarding every aspect of your life. Take care, Peace out, Mr. Flipper