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  Charles Manson Is Dead

  by Bangalore in

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  2. current

  https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/20/obituaries/charles-manson-dead.html.

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  Good riddance to this disgusting piece of puke. May he rot and deteriorate and become worm food .

  Not only did he and his followers kill a pregnant woman and others, he forever tarnished the Beatles song ' Helter Skelter ' by giving it a totally wrong application and definition. The Beatles song ' Helter Skelter ' was a song about a roller coaster ride in England by the same name. Then Manson comes along and applies it to his race war he wanted to start. Kind of reminds me of how WT Society misuses definitions of words to serve their own cults ambitions as well. And WT Society misusing words also costs people their lives. Either wasted lives, people committing suicide, child abuse, or JW's dying due to not getting life saving blood transfusions - WT Society is a cult with cult leaders , just as much as Manson was a cult leader. Both were and are deadly and have destroyed many lives. Sick
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  Death of a last Grandparent

  by ScottyRex in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  still read this forum from time to time, and a long time member originally since early 2000's.

  recently lost my last surviving grandparent, my great and wonderful nan.

  what a flood of emotions that released!

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  SCOTTY- My deepest condolences to you on your loss of Nan. My older folks died this last year and it is a deep pain indeed. I'm so sorry for your loss. Sincerely, Mr. Flipper
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  why won't legal department simply release all the secret pedophile files?

  by poopie in

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  2. friends

  what do you think there hiding?.

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  FINKELSTEIN- I agree with you that in the years I was a JW - elders in all the congregations I attended kept child abuse cases VERY quiet. Nobody knew WHAT was going on. Hell, I wasn't aware there was a WT child abuse problem until several years AFTER I exited in 2007. That being said - as the years go on the general public AND I believe JW's who are getting more frustrated are coming out more openly and talking about child abuse within their congregations as more and more of these abuse cases come tumbling out of the WT closet.

  Your statement about the elders handling child abuse - " when it does occur they just basically handle it in similar fashion as another act of sexual misconduct. " I somewhat disagree with you on that statement. From all the cases of fornication and adultery I saw within JW congregations it seems like elders were MORE intent on dfing somebody on extremely slim evidence when it came to fornication and adultery. I saw cases when just hearsay would convict a person of adultery or fornication- and elders would push HARD at a person for hours on end to coerce a confession from them for adultery or fornication.

  It's NOTHING like that when a case of child abuse come up in JW congregations. It's like they won't do ANYTHING to convict a pedophile unless two witnesses come against the abuser. Then, they dilly dally along while WT legal has to be contacted , and by then the pedophile has either moved to another area to escape detection, or abused 7 or 10 more children while WT legal puts their net or cloak of secrecy over the whole matter. It's fucking disgusting and criminal. So in what I've seen- WT elders are WAY more severe against acts of adultery or fornication than child abuse. And that's just wrong and criminal
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  why won't legal department simply release all the secret pedophile files?

  by poopie in

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  what do you think there hiding?.

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  Fisherman stated, " Who in their right mind would trust their 10 year old girl or 8 year old boy with a grown man ? - and then blame the Watchtower using your excuse . "

  Well, I can think of at least one very famous example ( I'm sure there are more ) of the idiot elders who were in Candace Conti's old congregation who actually ASSIGNED an adult Jonathan Kendrick to work with a young 10 year old Candace Conti ALONE , so your theory has many holes in it. Then he took her back to his house and molested her.

  Bottom line is elders in JW congregations are following direction from the WT legal department in PREVENTING police authorities from getting FIRST access to ANY JW child abuse cases - because they instruct the elders to report to WT legal FIRST ! Which is a crime in and of itself. Because THEN it allows more needless time to go by before police can do their investigative work into each and every child abuse case. And wasted time is something that a molested child cannot afford. Meanwhile Joe freaking pedophile keeps molesting the children while WT legal delays the child abuse case by their controlling financial " hush money " wrangling to keep everybody quiet. It's just disgusting.

  Until WT Society finally gives instructions INSISTING that elders contact police authorities FIRST before ANYTHING else- the WT Society's child abuse policies will remain ineffective and disgustingly criminal
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  Rock band titles from JW history / culture

  by sir82 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  on another thread, undercover suggested "adam and the dinosaurs".. i came up with these:.

  green bible dinosaurs.

  jezebel and the fornicators.

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  Nephilim & the Earthly Whores

  The Unholy Behemoth's

  Circumstancial Fornication

  Mouths of Two Witnesses

  The Self Abusers

  The Overlapping Generations

  Mentally Unstable Partakers

  Mind Controlled Freaks

  The Governing Boobies

  The Kingdom Hall Rip Offs

  All I can think of now
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  Rock band titles from JW history / culture

  by sir82 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  on another thread, undercover suggested "adam and the dinosaurs".. i came up with these:.

  green bible dinosaurs.

  jezebel and the fornicators.

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  Solomon and the date clusters

  Peter, Paul and Judas

  Jonah and the Regurgitating Whales

  Demonic Pigs off a Cliff

  Balaam's Ass

  Moses and the Burning Bush

  Pillars of salt

  Pontius Pilate & the Hand Washers

  Scarlet Colored Wild Beasts

  Uncircumcised Heathens

  A few that I could think of off the top of my head ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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  People Asking Me To Help Them Leave

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i dont know if it's due to the last convention, the recent broadcasts, the internet or just plain fatigue - but since the convention i've had a few people contact me via facebook messenger asking how i am then cutting to the chase asking me what it's like "on the outside" or "how did you adjust after leaving?

  " and asking me how they can leave the wt but keep their families.. my reply is always the same, i show real genuine interest and concern and listen to their situation.

  then i suggest a fade, how to fade, to ignore or reject elders visits, to not talk about their doubts to active jws under any circumstances and finally point them to this site.

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  Hey Pale, you're a good man and good friend to be helping these folks see the way to freedom ! Keep up the great work ! These JW's who are exiting need a support system and genuine, real people to lean on and assist them to see how to move on in life post- WT life. Good for you, and good for them
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  Long Beach School Teacher - you can guess the rest

  by Dagney in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i'm speechless.

  i know this guy.

  http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-buena-park-arrest-20160630-snap-story.html.

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  I just posted my thoughts on the Reddit board comment section. What pisses me off more than anything is how elders - knowing this sick bastard molested kids, did not report his offenses to police and it only comes out about 8 years later. Meanwhile mr. Schoolteacher tries running away from his crimes escaping to the east coast in North Carolina - and who knows how many other children he molested back there ? And we have the leaders of this criminal organization the WT Society to thank for letting shit like this happen. The elders are complicit , but the bottom line is WT is more concerned about protecting their billion $$$$ empire than protecting their own JW children. And that is absolutely disgusting . Period mark, exclamation point
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  Roy Moore

  by ducatijoe in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  so... after seeing men who abuse children in the organization, i am out.

  however this shit is in the "world" too.

  my fellow alabama voters are still behind roy moore.

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  Roy Moore is a disgusting , arrogant pig who should have his you know what removed and be strung up on a tree in the inner chambers of congress while the women he abused lash him with rope strung with Bibles that he claims to believe in with pointed stakes sticking out of them. Then throw the jerk into prison where he belongs. He has no right whatsoever to serve in congress. Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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  Eloise Dupuis died of a lack of blood and refusal of transfusion

  by yalbmert99 in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  jw eloise dupuis (canada, quebec) died last year of a lack of blood and refusal of blood transfusions, while the familly and the jw propaganda machine said it was rather because of an infection.

  coroner says however we must respect her belief and there was no undue influence.

  he doesn't know the wt it seems.. in french:.

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  Thanks Waton. Peace out, Flipper