Posts by flipper

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Hello

by Jules Saturn in

hello, i've been lurking for quite some time here on this forum, reading a whole lot and i've finally made the courage to create an account as a form of escape and in hopes to be understood and not feel "mentally diseased".

little background on me, i am a born in but i consider myself a pimo (physically in mentally out).

i feel like i've always had doubts but these doubts would sink with the meetings and the assemblies and every other little thing that drowns any doubts a witness may have.

flipper

Hey Jules- Welcome to the forum ! I know it's hard right now, but in time it will get easier. Sometimes we've got to go through a little hell to gain our freedom of mind. Your family is suffering an actual psychological , mental condition called " dissociative disorder " which occurs in many members of high control, mind control organizations like Scientology, Mormonism, and Jehovah's Witnesses. In other words- they cannot see " the forest through the trees " of what YOU are seeing right now due to their minds being totally manipulated and controlled by WT Society indoctrination tactics.

Some books that really assisted me when I exited the Witnesses about 14 years ago were Steve Hassan's books on cult mind control . One of the books is called " Releasing the Bonds- Empowering People to Think for Themselves " and a couple other books which helped me to understand HOW the WT Society was able to control my mind and the minds of others I knew. Then we start seeing these JW's as " captives of a concept " WT concept that is and how dangerous mind control tactics are when used by leaders of high control organizations like the WT Society and the others I mentioned. Then we begin to understand what prevents our JW friends and relatives from seeing the light like we do who have exited. Anyway Steve Hassan's website is : www.freedomofmind.com.

I wish you the best and we are here as a support to you and offer our unconditional friendship indeed. Hang in there friend, Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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Call for investigation into JW child abuse in the Netherlands

by Anders Andersen in

after yesterday's newspaper articles about how jw (mis)handle child abuse cases, today the newspaper reports that both members of the national house of representatives, and the national commissioner on human trafficking and sexual violence against children are petitioning the minister / secretary of state to launch an investigation into jw and other closed religious communities.. the newspaper article (in dutch).

the newspaper also published the personal story of a victim, and how he fought for justice within jw to no avail.this story is from my home town (just few years before i move there), different congregation in the same hall..

flipper

This organization needs to be exposed worldwide for it's horrid child abuse policies. Period. Exclamation point ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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Is true religion all about being serious?

by venus in

amidst of many barriers such as no birthday celebration, no blood transfusion, no voting, no political career, no military service, no national anthem, no higher studies ….. i felt handicapped.

isn’t seriousness of the ego and joyfulness of egolessness?

isn’t true religion all about a celebration of life?

flipper

What Finkelstein said. I totally agree

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Jehovah's people are not happy people

by Phoebe in

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i finally stopped attending the meetings about 4 months go.

i won't be going back - ever.. but i've decided the best reply to the watchtower is to be happy and i do try to be happy every day even thought i wasted my entire life on this religion.

i cherish every day, practice mindfulness and do my best to be content with the life i have.. it is only now that i see that most jws i know are deeply unhappy people.

flipper

I agree with Anon's statement, " one reason they are so mean spirited is in part due to their own unhappiness. Seeing other people happy, ....... seems to eat away at them . "

This is SOOO true. What's the old expression ? Misery loves company ? I believe it's not just that the JW cult mind control over them turns them into control freaks themselves - but just seeing US EX-JW's enjoying life absolutely causes them anguish because it makes them question the validity of their beliefs ! They are told that they are " a people for special possession, that Jehovah's people and organization are happy " so if they aren't " happy " then they think they're doing something wrong. Or it causes them to doubt or ponder things within. Then they feel MORE guilty for doing that !

My extended JW family cannot understand how I can be so happy in my own life and I simply tell them I have a lot to be happy for. The love I share with friends & family. It's a concept that's foreign to them because they are taught to NOT open their hearts to any non-JW's

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Why Are More JWs Claiming to be Anointed?

by Ding in

most jws i know claim they are happy being in the great crowd.

they'd rather live on a paradise earth and pet lions than go to heaven.. heaven is a place they can't relate to, a place where they don't expect their friends and loved ones to be.. so why are more and more jws claiming to be of the anointed?.

aren't they looked down upon as if they are crazy, proud, ignorant, or engaging in apostate thinking?.

flipper

STEVE 2 - So 2,000 more insane people than I thought are claiming to be prospective " kings and priests with Jesus " , eh ? Never knew Jesus needed so much help ! LOL. Well- he's dead, so he probably doesn't know

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Some Good News About Me (Although Anthony Morris Will Be Furious)

by pale.emperor in

just wanted to share with you some good news i'm really excited about.

i have been accepted for university to study psychology and counseling.

my goal is to become a counselor and, in time, to specialize on treating those who have left high control relationships/groups like we all did.. it'll take a few years before im qualified but studying in university has been a dream of mine since i was 12, which was systematically dashed to pieces by watchtower.. .

flipper

PALE EMPEROR - I'm so proud of you I could eat a peach ! Fantastic ! Good luck to you. Keep on, keeping on ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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Why Are More JWs Claiming to be Anointed?

by Ding in

most jws i know claim they are happy being in the great crowd.

they'd rather live on a paradise earth and pet lions than go to heaven.. heaven is a place they can't relate to, a place where they don't expect their friends and loved ones to be.. so why are more and more jws claiming to be of the anointed?.

aren't they looked down upon as if they are crazy, proud, ignorant, or engaging in apostate thinking?.

flipper

I believe the reason more JW's are partaking ( the number goes up about 1,000 each year the last 10-12 years or so ) so now what is there ? About 16,000 worldwide ?

The real reason is the WT Society about 10 - 12 years ago changed their teaching which once was that the door had been closed to more anointed being collected by 1935 . They used to teach the number had been sealed, " finished " , " done " by then . They opened it back up in about 2005 or so when they started getting younger and younger GB members who would need to be considered " anointed " in order to be GB members. So it was a convenient way to claim they had " new light " that God Jehober had opened up to receiving more anointed- when in reality it was " new light " for the convenience of getting these younger GB members stamped as " anointed " - so no one would question anything.

But the truth is- as many of you state here- by opening it back up- it invited every Tom, Dick, Harry , and crazy person to claim that THEY too are anointed. But as we know WT Society leaders are very adept at shooting themselves in their own foot. Not much thought goes into this alleged " new light " - other than " how can it benefit the WT GB and WT leaders to keep the organization afloat " . My 2 cents

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