Wanted to bump this thread up in response to the thread that was put out about " God " helping the JW's in Russia. These experiences of folks on these threads should assure many that " God " is not " protecting " Jehovah's Witnesses- if anything he's asleep on the job all the while allowing sociopath's to continue abusing others in his " clean " organization. Any comments welcome
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WT Society Creates the Atmosphere which Spawns Child Abuse in Congregations
by flipper inbeen thinking about this lately after almost 14 years out of the jw cult myself.
when you think of the language used within the jehovah's witness organization in such a closed society environment in how the wt society promotes almost absolute " trust " in the elders , the governing body, and trust even in the " friends " in the congregation themselves- is it any wonder that unscrupulous child molesters can enter any congregation pretending to be " spiritual " and take advantage of unsuspecting children or the parents ?
think about it : an individual is judged as a " spiritual " person within the jw organization based on what wt functions or duties they are good at performing.
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I'm 90% PIMO but events in Russia made me stop and think maybe Jehovah is real and helping
by Isambard Crater ini'm at the stage where i'd love a big scandal to come along showing clearly that the j.w's are not the true religion, but sometimes i get touched inside by various thoughts or events, the russian court trial being one of them.. i mean, j.w's are understandably fixated with attending the memorial, so why didn't the court say it will resume on monday or tuesday, instead setting wednesday 12 april as the date?
part of me believes the comments from pro-j.w's that jehovah moved events so they could attend the memorial.. it seems the j.w's will not be banned, which makes my mind and heart wrestle between thinking jah's behind it, or maybe the ministry of justice is just woefully prepared compared to the superb australian royal commission team who did their homework.
it surprises me the russians seemingly haven't done any homework..
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flipper
I agree with JAMBON 1 - If " Jah " as you call him is allegedly " saving " the JW's from further Russian " persecution " - then how come " Jah " isn't stopping the Governing Body from killing JW's in prohibiting them to take life saving blood transfusions ? How come the WT Governing Body isn't protecting JW children from being victims of child abuse within the organization and hiding database files on 20,000 known JW pedophiles- refusing to release this information to the courts ? How come the WT Governing Body continues to break up families from the shunning policies which cause many ex-JW's to derail mentally and commit suicide ?
If " Jah " is that loving of a " God " - ask yourself these questions . Time to wake up and smell the coffee man. As someone mentioned earlier- this is not Disney world from our youth
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Don Rickles Dead at 90
by minimus inanother old time comic gone.
i recently saw him on an old johnny carson show.
rest in peace!.
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Rest in Peace Don- one of the greats indeed ! Funny as hell. I loved it when he was on the Johnny Carson show- probably one of the few comedians with a quicker wit and humor than Carson. He would put Johnny through his paces on that show- then Carson couldn't stop laughing . Incredible talent. We need more like him these days. I put Rickles in the same league as Sam Kinison & Rodney Dangerfield as comedians. Priceless
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Why are the individuals who make up the Governing Body so deluded
by UnshackleTheChains insurely these men must see what's going on.
if they can afford fancy pinky rings, they must have smart phones.
if they have smart phones, they must be inquisitive as to how they are perceived.
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UNSHACKLE the CHAINS- Great point you make. The arrogance of the GB WILL be the cause of their own downfall. And you're right- there indeed may be one or two even on the GB who might have a conscience- but FEAR is a powerful tool to keep possible dissenters of the religion quiet. They would lose their family, their life, and support system if they came out against the JW cult in public. Think Ray Franz. Mind control cults like Scientology and JW's use these techniques and fear to prevent people from leaving - one reason they push the " shunning " practice so much.
WE can only hope that someone at the top of the WT Society gathers up enough courage and strength to come out in public like Ray Franz did and either write a book or gets on nationwide media to expose the corruption of the WT Society. Many grassroots movements might be starting up - like what's happening in Poland right now with 60-80 people publicly demonstrating getting media attention. Those kinds of movements need to keep happening around the world everywhere
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Hello from Rio Rancho NM
by MattS. inhowdy all, i think i was on here a long time ago, but i digress.
i live here in rio rancho, new mexico and was wondering if anyone here is from around these parts as well?.
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Hello Matt, welcome to the board ! My wife and I live out in Northern California - but a warm welcome to you anyway. If you aren't busy on July 7th to 9th we are getting together for our annual South Lake Tahoe apostafest, you are cordially invited and welcome to come as well ! It will be a lot of fun. Usually about 50 people show up. Take care, PM me if you'd like more details
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Protest against Jehovah's Witness organization in Poland on March 26th, 2017, covered by a local news TV
by WTS Archive inwatch it here: .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8koav8xzck .
the protest was organized by a former jw elder and pioneer couple - alex and iza.
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Very well done and organized ! THIS is what needs to happen across the United States and in other countries as well. Ex-JW's getting together in numbers of 60 - 80 people, demonstrating with signs, getting media attention in public places, and even standing outside Kingdom Hall entrances as people drive in off the street to attend. Perhaps we'll start seeing this on mainstream T.V. or Internet around the world if Ex-JW folks can consolidate efforts and stop being like cats going off in all different directions without being herded or organized. I hope more of these grass roots movements get started
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Why are the individuals who make up the Governing Body so deluded
by UnshackleTheChains insurely these men must see what's going on.
if they can afford fancy pinky rings, they must have smart phones.
if they have smart phones, they must be inquisitive as to how they are perceived.
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UNSHACKLE the CHAINS- The ONLY reason that the GB may be inquisitive about how they are perceived is not due to having a conscience or that they feel bad about negative reports regarding them - the only reason they might be the slightest bit interested in curbing negative news is due to the financial concerns for themselves and the WT organization. WT power mongers and greed wish to keep the organization afloat as a property eating real estate corporation disguised as a " religion " .
These are NOT men who are deluded. They know full well what kind of scam they are pulling on rank & file Jehovah's Witnesses. They have " taken the money " and ran off essentially with the use of free, donated labor from JW's - then sell the kingdom halls out from under these same Witnesses - all the while claiming WT Society has title and deed to the land and properties.
These are NOT men who are deluded - who refuse to cooperate with orders from superior courts demanding they release data base files and names of over 20,000 pedophiles within the Jehovah's Witnesses. These WT leaders are evil, narcissistic, sociopaths who feel the laws of the land in any country do not apply to them. They feel entitled as they feel they ARE " god " essentially and have no need to answer to anyone for their actions.
They run a criminal organization intent on harming other people and breaking up families. This meets their end game- taking away people's money and power
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2017 Special Conventions.
by ToesUp injw special conventions.
who's going?.
are you "special" enough to be chosen?.
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DREAMERDUDE- Thanks for the info. So it's as corny as I thought then. It's the same old " we are a people for special possession " - or - " Jehovah's people are SO special " - or - " we are so separate from the world our shit doesn't stink ! " In other words- same old exclusivity crap. Makes me gag. JW's think they're so special- yet they aren't even a blip on the radar screen in the huge world view
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Anthony Morris - The Higher Education Broadcast
by pale.emperor inlast night i had jw broadcasting on in the background while i was working, i like to keep up to date with their crap.
which is strange because when i actually was a jw i hated reading or watching their material.. anyway, on the streaming section, anthony morris comes on screen telling me that higher education is bad and "the better the university, the greater the danger".
i never would have believed it if i hadn't seen him say it myself.
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Anthony Morris should go dig a hole for himself and crawl into it. What an idiot. Or as the sports commentator Jim Rome used to say on his show to stupid callers who called in - " stop talking " . My son now 32 years old is only a month away from getting his Bachelor's degree at college and out of the 8 JW or EX-JW adult children in my family I believe that only he and my adult niece will have Bachelor degrees. If it wasn't for both of them keeping their nose to the grindstone and persevering - they wouldn't have accomplished this. I'm deeply proud of both of these young people as the JW organization odds were stacked up against them !
If the GB wasn't so tunnel visioned in their teachings - perhaps GB member Morris and others wouldn't just be firing on 1 brain neurotransmitter and make idiotic statements dissing higher education. They'd have multiple brain neurotransmitters firing and not be so bogged down in their own heads with cult mind control. But they have evil intent on controlling JW's lives- so they'll never change. Evil is - as evil does
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2017 Special Conventions.
by ToesUp injw special conventions.
who's going?.
are you "special" enough to be chosen?.
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flipper
Is this the same " special " convention where they are telling JW's to " not give up " ? As the " end " hasn't come yet ? Been out of the loop so long now I don't even care. But as the saying goes " inquiring minds want to know. " Peace out, Mr. Flipper