firstly, thank you to anyone who is in support of this rc.
no one has shown anything but great interest and empathy for those who were abused.. i don't know who this simonsays character is though and i find him to be very rude and ignorant.
it takes all kinds to make the world go round i suppose.. today i was contacted by a staff member of the royal commission.
Well done, Umbertoecho!
So glad to see that Australia will take on these criminals.
Here in the states it's such a sacred cow thing the way the government tiptoes around religion.
People, it would be good to send emails to thank the royal commission for their work.
Their email is: [email protected]
Mrs. Flipper
are you pleased with the exposure of the society in australia?
do you feel personally vindicated by it?
do you think it gives you credibility with others now that all the things you said were going on, actually are documented?
Yikes....The superstition of apologists is what keeps change from happening.
I can just hear the excuses - Imperfect men, wait on Jehovah, isolated incidents, money hungry liars just want to sue the poor watchtower.
And if all else fails, Satan is controlling the media. It could happen right in front of them and then I guess it's a hologram created by Satan's Hollywood production company.
Flipper will have a grandchild soon. Will he ever have a relationship with this child whose mother responds to the child abuse problem this way while shunning flipper most of the time for not being a jw anymore ?
This is why I've come to think it's better to inform the public than waste time on crazy JWs. The public will protect their children.
Mrs. Flipper
hello to those following what is going in australia with our royal commission.. i want to let all those abused, neglected, shunned and blamed that i understand why you may not front the rc.
the wtbts is hoping you will consider yourself an invalid complainant, because you are not or were not.....baptised.
if you were abused at a young age and you told on your dad or the bad man that did it.......you would have been taken aside by the overseer and read scriptures about lying and being immoral; even if you didn't know what that word meant.
Simon Says:
What in the hell will be harmed if more abuse survivors come forward?
the gb needs to be subpenaed to testify just like losch was.
the commission needs to subpena each one individually and make separate fines when each one refuses.
hello to those following what is going in australia with our royal commission.. i want to let all those abused, neglected, shunned and blamed that i understand why you may not front the rc.
the wtbts is hoping you will consider yourself an invalid complainant, because you are not or were not.....baptised.
if you were abused at a young age and you told on your dad or the bad man that did it.......you would have been taken aside by the overseer and read scriptures about lying and being immoral; even if you didn't know what that word meant.
Umbertoecho, your experiences are not the least surprising to me. That's pretty bad.
So many abuse survivors have been treated the same way by the watchtower - it is their standard operation procedure. I'm talking about people I know personally. It's sick.
There are a lot of JW's "in good standing" that behave like a pack of hyenas.
It is so frustrating that they keep getting away with it. I wonder if abuse victims will not be hounded even worse now that this is in the news, to keep them silenced.
Wish you the very best. Mrs. Flipper
by popular demand i give you day 4, and i will finally get a couple of days to sleep .
part 1 has been uploaded and part 2,3 and 4 will soon be available.. part 1:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lmlcdqesa0&list=plpq6kz-aghvqbadlzmqn26dvmpzddxlui&index=11.
this is from conti's appeal veredict:.
monica applewhite, a clinical social worker and an expert on child sexual abuse, testified for defendants that watchtowers policy against disclosing private information .
very closely mirror[ed] the codes of ethics of the national association of social workers and the american counseling association.
i don't know if a commercial will come up and i can't find this on youtube as it is probably copyright material or i am just not in a good search pattern today.
anyway, try to view this if you haven't seen it:.
https://rutube.ru/video/0ba7a3ee7e89dbbc730c4af32032e33b/?ref=logo .
Yes, indeed- I DO think that we are at the tip of the iceberg here. The titanic WT Society is wobbling a little right now. It's like Pandora's box right now - the more child abuse cases that get released out of the box, the more official commissions like the Australia Commission start investigating and this access to information is hit on millions of times on Google search- there is NO way the WT Society will be able to stop it from being known worldwide.
And with ex-JWs spreading the news on websites like this- before you know it if it keeps up the JW's will become KNOWN for allowing child molesters free reign and will become KNOWN for not reporting child molesters to police. It's how the " dirty laundry " business works in the media. Just my 2 cents
i just found these vidoes on youtube, maybe you have seen them already, but i thought i would share.
these canadian kids for me are courageous and inspiring.
more excellent public examples of non vitrial apostate awakening.
are you pleased with the exposure of the society in australia?
do you feel personally vindicated by it?
do you think it gives you credibility with others now that all the things you said were going on, actually are documented?
Getting in a little late on this discussion - but no, I don't need to feel " personally vindicated " about anything. True justice for the victims and exposure of a criminal organization like the WT Society will vindicate itself AND the child abuse victims, THOSE are the people who need to be vindicated.
Many of us ex-JW's are just messengers getting the word out - we just ask " don't shoot the messenger ". I am satisfied that yes, the WT Society is being exposed for the criminal organization that it is, but there is STILL a lot of payback and injustices committed by the GB and WT leaders that need to be answered for. It's not over by any stretch of the imagination. Not until there are criminal indictments against the WT leaders will I be truly satisfied. And they are put in jail for crimes against humanity. Then I will be somewhat more satisfied. Even more so if the whole organization disintegrates
