No pictures...but there are nudies at times....
ooo I will have to check out those other books!
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have any of you read this book?.
it is brilliant....and very be very disconcerting for anyone that has been entrenched in a religion, believing theirs is the only "true" religion.....robert heinlin's best
No pictures...but there are nudies at times....
ooo I will have to check out those other books!
for the last few years, my son has been thinking about what happens when you die.
it has caused many a nights lost sleep for him.
today he asked me (for the upteenth time) what i thought happens when you die.
THANK YOU TO EVERYONE THAT REPLIED!!!!
I really appreciate it! I am saving these posts and will check out the books that were recommend, and the uua.org site as well...I had thought about going there for myself, but will check it out with my son. I knew I could find useful advice here.....he loves books, and reads plenty of fiction and fantasy, and I think that has helped fueled his imagination, and need his curiousity as well as being raised as a dub for 7 pr 8 years.
You guys are the BEST!!!!
i have heard so many allegations and allusions that rejecting the symbolic body and blood of christ at a jw memorial is a satanic ritual.
does anyone have any info on this other than just the fact that it seems to be that way?
i would like something concrete.
Asleif....kudos!
i have heard so many allegations and allusions that rejecting the symbolic body and blood of christ at a jw memorial is a satanic ritual.
does anyone have any info on this other than just the fact that it seems to be that way?
i would like something concrete.
I think you would have to call the daily mass in the Catholic church as satanic as well then.
there's an open invitation to all who would like to attend the annual convention in the mountains of pennsylvania for xjw's!
it books rather quickly and will be held on october 17-19th, fri.- sun.
there are accomodations on the grounds of the blue mountain christian retreat and they are very inexpensive.
leaving the JW religion does not mean one has accepted Christ...but it is good that people here post this information for those that have.
hi, be wise here going through a late wbts phase.. i've chosen for a long time to just ignore everything i was taught and turn my back on the whole jw thing for a long time now [this didn't help in the slightest].. it's only since i got on the web and got past that 'initial' fear of questioning things that i've started to mend.
i'm only just starting to look at what kind of society i've been indoctrinated by for most of my life and believe me it isn't good.
i've just been on randys website all night i haven't slept a wink but it was worth it.
LIVE IN FEAR OR FREE YOUR MIND.
Hmmmm..got a nice ring to it....I may just make that a bumper sticker
will you be celebrating?
do you go for the chocolate eggs!?
i gotta to work out where to hide some for the kids!.
BEHOLD the power of cheese!
Just let me know where to sign up for that holiday!
how many out here know a loved one or know of someone who suffers from depression and it is from being in the borg and never feel you are doing enough.
my ex wife would always lapse into a few month state of depression right after a visit from the c/o and getting pounded on about f/s hours or not enough studies or not enough pioneers yadda yadda yadda.
i know with my ex that the constant fear of armageddon and feeling inadequate was a depression trigger ready to be pulled at any instant.
Hmmmm...lets see....prescribed at least three different meds for depression over a 4 year period....but once I left the Hall, I have not needed anything at all. Once I realized that it was not healthy to be some consumed with religion and guilt, I think that helped me deal with all the other issues I had.
Just knowing that the answer "You need to prayer more and go out in service more" is NOT the answer to what ails ya, was the biggest relief of all.
well, this yr is my first easter!
i havent been to the "meetings" for yrs but couldnt bring myself to celebrate easter till now...crazy huh!.
we went to my sister in laws house and had coffee and toasted buttered hot cross buns and coffee and then swapped our chocolate eggs etc....
Good for you!!!!
Happy Easter!
We painted the eggs tonight, filled some plastic eggs when the kids went to bed, and the Easter Monkey (thank you for that Cartoon Network!) will be hiding them in the mornging for the kids to find.
Let's hope all this egg involvement does not lead to ferillity!!
We will be having pork ribs....I guess that ain't right, but the Polytheist in the family approves haah!
for the last few years, my son has been thinking about what happens when you die.
it has caused many a nights lost sleep for him.
today he asked me (for the upteenth time) what i thought happens when you die.
For the last few years, my son has been thinking about what happens when you die. It has caused many a nights lost sleep for him. Today he asked me (for the upteenth time) what I thought happens when you die. I told him that when I was a witness, I was taught that the soul and body was one, so that when the body died so did the soul. But, since 144,000 could gain entrance into heaven, to me that was contridictory. And, if people are to be resurrected, yet their bodies had rotted after death, shouldn't the soul be gone? The explanation that god remembers the person and "recreates him" never settled well with me. Holy Cloning, Batman! A clone is not the same person as the original. I told him that I believe (and hope) that there is something for us after death, but am not sure what. I did tell him that I do not believe in Hell, because I find it unnatural...and total nonsense.
He proceeded to tell me that he did believe in heck (he wont say hell, it is very cute, haha!), but not to the same degree that many religions do. He felt it was a place that very bad people went, not to be tortured, but to be punished for a while until they are better, and then they move on to somewhere else or maybe become a better person. I told him that this sound a lot like reincarnation..which led to a discuss on past lives..etc. He then told me that he does not believe in one god. He turned to me and said (we were in the car) "I am a Polytheist" he believes that one god could not handle all of mankind and nature. I said, sure greek and roman gods had human imperfections, so they could not. But that most monotheistic religions believed in a Supreme being, so that god would not have imperfections, so they could handle it. But I did not tell him he was wrong...because who knows?
(and for those of you wondering...yes he has studied some Greek and Roman history/mythology...I think that influence is showing a wee bit)
I am very glad that he is starting to think through his fears, and although I may not agree with his conclusions, was impressed that he has never stopped having a spiritual thirst. I would like to get him some books to read that gives a good overview of variuos religions. He already knows what a lot of the JWs are about, and my mother is a die hard....I am thinking outside of the JudeoChristian religions. I loved reading Mankinds Search for God...it just made me more interested in other religions, and I think after reading that book I first starting having serious doubts about the JWs. Can anyone give me some advice on how to encourage him looking for his own answers?