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  The 1954 Douglas Walsh Transcript--PDF!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the douglas walsh trial 1954. the watchtower under oath.

  exposing the watchtower dictatorship over jehovah's witnesses.

  most of the researchers here need no introduction as to the "exposing" testimony recorded within this 762 page court transcript.

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  Mt 24:14 fulfilled - response from dubs and CO

  by mavie in

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  2. friends

  i was talking to a current jw about this issue.

  i asked if they had heard about mt 24:14 being fulfilled, to which they replied 'no'.

  had told them that the wt has said that scripture had been fulfilled a long time ago, which they did..... i then asked, 'so you *have* heard about mt 24:14 being fulfilled since your co is talking about it....'well, ya'.(!!

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  http://geography.about.com/cs/countries/a/numbercountries.htm

  compare that with the number of countries in the WT of 1/1, obvious...
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  COHI Towers Associates

  by ErEf in

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  2. scandals

  in the story of barbara anderson she mentions cohi towers assiociates and she mentions them as very rich witnesses.. they bought buildings (standish hotel & bossert hotel) which where renovated (by voluntair witnesses presumably) and with goods of the wbts and afterwards sold to the watchtower.. is that the way some people gets even more rich?

  is that the purpose of the organization?

  is the selling/buying of these big buildings written down in archives?

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  who is gaining then.. the ones having their nice room and their meals every day? I wouldn't call that welth.

  you made a good point that it would be to hard to find out :( tnx again.
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  This week's revelation book study

  by Mr.X in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hello all, i havent posted on here in a very loooonnngggg time, but i have been reading alot of the posts, anyhow my life has changed a bit this month....a little background.....my fam is all witnesses and my dad is an elder, anyhow ive been living on my own since 19 and i am 25 now, i had to move out cause of the elder thing and me not doing anything with the "truth"...so this whole time ive been living in apartments and now i want my own house....so my lease was up in jan 1st and i needed a place to stay while i house hunt and save up a bit.

  so my dad said hey why dont u stay here until your all set again, so i said okay thats nice of ya.

  so now he wants me to attend the bookstudy because it wont make anyone say hey he shouldnt be living with u.....stupid adults being stumbled by a father looking after his own son....i just dont get it.

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  ErEf

  hahahah... you'll just reply once and then fall asleep.
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  Fruit vs Blood

  by moomanchu in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i used this line of reasonong with my jw mom with limited sucess.

  the scriptures:.

  genesis 3:3 you must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden , and you must not touch it, or you will die.. genesis 9:4 but you must not eat meat that has its lifeblood still in it .. me "jehovah says you must not eat blood, period.

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  they also could have ran to the fruit of the tree of live.. than ran to the tree of knowledge.. take a bite of both and we would all be happy, wouldn't we?
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  Do JW's flout Romans 14:1?

  by yaddayadda in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  romans 14:1 .

  nwt welcome the [man] having weaknesses in [his] faith, but not to make decisions on inward questionings.

  niv accept him whose faith is weak, without passing judgment on disputable matters.

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  I will know tomorrow when I have my talk just about that with to elders.
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  WHAT QUESTIONS WOULD YOU LIKE TO ASK A GB MEMBER?

  by badboy in

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  2. friends

  any takers?.

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  ErEf

  You all get so very old, is that because you laugh a lot?

  Every time you of the GB have a private meeting it's just two hours of laughing and crying tears of joy with what you can come up with the next month? Laughing is healthy they say.

  hahahaha.. Ted.. shall we instruct the old and disabled pubs that even when they think about preaching in the good old days they may write 15 minutes?

  hahaha.. John ... hillarious
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  What message would you like to say to anyone studying with the JW's?

  by JH in

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  2. friends

  i'd say, beware, once you'll be baptized they won't treat you the same way.

  they will expect a lot from you, and you'll never be free again to say what you think about the religon or even think for yourself.

  they will control your life completely.

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  use the helicopter view.. take a distance and investigated all that is said about the WT

  If it is the truth it will withstand all accusations

  if it isn't well..
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  Is it possible that worshiping "Jehovah" is worshiping a false god?

  by A-Team in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  for christians only:.

  i was watching a special on cnn saturday about muslims and them worshiping "allah".

  i said to my self "they are worshiping a false god.

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  It's remarkable how few times Jesus is recorded saying the name. Only when citing the Hebrew text.

  Further what did he learn us..

  Our Father in heaven mt 6:9

  O Father if it is possible let this cup mt 26:39

  Mt 11:25,Lk 16:24; Lk23:34; John chapter 17

  he learned us that Jehovah is no longer that what he needs to be primarily, judge, teacher, king etc., but that through Jesus he is now our Father and that we may say Father

  Rom 8:15 For the Spirit that God has given you does not make you slaves and cause you to be afraid; instead, the Spirit makes you God's children, and by the Spirit's power we cry out to God, “Father! my Father!” (kjv)
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  Will Lack of Leadership Sink the JW Ship?

  by Seeker4 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i see serious problems with the leadership of the witnesses on two important levels: locally, in smaller bodies of elders with marginally qualified men carrying heavier workloads, and internationally in a lackluster and unimaginative governing body.

  there are no nathan knorrs, or fred or ray franz's in this pathetic group!

  first, the local elders: .

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  ErEf

  If you are still an active or sorta-active JW, what kind of elders are in your congregation?

  High quality, medium or poor? HQ

  Over-worked or doing OK? OK

  Good speakers or poor? good

  Really helpful or non-existent? average

  Are things better or worse than they were a decade or two ago? better

  I say better because we just joined two congregations because a lot of jw's moved to other parts of the country. We have +10 elders now that is better. A few of them are 'good' bible students. The rest knows all WT popular bible texts by heart and some other are on the level of my book with bible stories. two decades ago the elderly body was just renewed with other elders because of the bossy attitude there was.

  In average it's a nice bunch we have. The former CO who visited our congregation gave some instructions to change this or that. Half year later he came back and asked why his instructions were not listened to. I heared the overseer say.. not instructions.. they were suggestions.

  Still when it comes to it they stick by the rules.. of course.