"So what? 6 is too many, let them die"
Wow ... I'm speachless !
it bothers me when people who dont even believe in the bible try to use scriptures against me.
for example this woman at work, hates all christianity (except jw's), is agnostic, doesnt believe in the bible.
whenever i mention something about the jw's she says "remember, judge not, lest you be judged" that just irks the living daylights out of me.
"So what? 6 is too many, let them die"
Wow ... I'm speachless !
Well I think I've been cursed : TV run off Monday and the washing Machin Tonight ... (no spin water everywhere cause I didn't realised when I've openned the window)
And What's on my mind right now is What's Next ? Arrrrrgh ...
this is very difficult to write because i am crying.
i am normally not the kind of person you will ever see cry because things don't affect me that much but this has got to be the hardest things i have ever went through.. i just got through discussing with my wife my feelings.
i guess it has been hard to hid some of the things that i have felt since i have learned that many of the wt teachings are false.
(((Rassillon)))
I'm sorry for you ... But it's not the end ... What Drew Sagansaid looks like a good idea ... cause if it's not the lack of love in between you two apparently wich is the problem (you still have a chance to get her back) ... And trully the first thing even before WTBS's lies which really do TILT in our mind is the lack of love in JWland ...
And yeah studying for real (it's not a weird idea ...) As Drew said help her to compare what come's out of it relatively of what the WTBS is teaching. Most of JW do not study by themself for real (they actually wouldn't have the time just because the JWsysteme takes a lot of time just studying with them their own literrature - so it feels like it's enough to get the point ... it's not ... and your wife might realise it too)
I hope everything will turn well you and your wife.
Take care
i would be interested to hear from the ladies about women that go after married men.
why do some seek them out over single guys?
i remember years ago reading an article about them but i do not remember much.
Last week I got hit on three times but I do not have enough time or money for an affair
Well that's more interresting than TV no regrets !
About the subject I realise that it's just about : I don't care (anyone) ... I want what I want (sex or more) ... and if I can have it ... (see what I mean?). It looks like, life is short, I'll take what can where I can to who I can ...
you could go on, and on and on ... the why depends on the who ...
was it easy to accept council from elders, i found it extremely hard, the reason being it was always laced with stupidity.. just one of the many many times i had run ins with the elders.. when discussing an important issue that had come up (usually personally), the elder said to me "getting your little green book out again", a reference to my use of the wts code of conduct book (the organisation book) trying to counsel me on the use of wts material.
how can you start from common ground when you have foolish statements said like that from so called spiritual leaders .
my dear old mum, when bringing up 4 children after the war, gave us every week a dose of cod liver oil ,her reason was we needed it.. cod liver oil is like counsel.
How did you accept counsel
I did not ... since they were weird to me ... how could I?
Just get another damn TV, that's all.that's what my boss told me today, but then I think what about a 25 € for the whole thing a keep the money for something really more interesting ... that 's why it's still on my mind ... otherwise I guess It wouldn't so whoever I've tried TV tuner Tell me what how it feels
Well rigth now I'm in front of my TV who actually shut down Monday (all of the sudden) So I'm thinking what should I do? Can I live without it? Yes at first I didn't really care, still it's not really interactive and that's finally what I like in TV you don't really look at it but sometimes something appears on the screen or something is said and catch my attention ... Also I like to look some good Reports on Nature, history, technics and stuff like that ... So
I'm still wondering should I just buy
So if anyone of you use a TV tuner can you tell me if you are happy with it (send me a PM with the detail of your system)
let me preface this by saying how much i enjoy learning.
i read constantly.
but as for "personal study", i did my best... i forced myself, but could never get into it.
From OTWO
WOW, I thought you were actually describing my studying
when you described yours.I would read the quoted scriptures, try to figure out how they applied, even cross referenced them, but usually it would lead me on a big goose chase ending with eyebrows raised and jaw dropped as it inevitably led to something either completely nonsensical or just plain sadistic in the Hebrew scriptures.I often just accepted what they said after shaking my head. During WT study with my
wife, I would often say- "Bad example. What about.....?"I thought I had the problem. Well, I should have followed my instincts years sooner.
Interesting that's in resume what my sister "M" said ... (lots not contextual quotes) and we've made a trial with last the a WT talking about exclusion (they use a new word for it now : excomunuation) whatever ... full of no contextual quotes ... Each time to make it clear I've read the all chapters for my sister for her to realise it for good.
From JW What they called "personal study" would be better termed "personal memorization".
Yeah it's most about memorization ... if memory can help thinking, studying/thinking/analysing should not be leaded by memory but discernment.
just a little breaking news:.
after several years of a great friendship with diane (previously posted as xena) things have started to really come together recently and i've succumbed to making an honest woman of her (or at least as honest as it's possible to make her.
last night (xmas day) i popped the question and she agreed to marry me (i wonder if she knows what she's let herself in for!!!)..
Damn' I can't sleep more than two hours in a row !!! And here I am taking the habit again to check JWD, I've read the whole post !!!
Hi Diane sweety
You've been nice at a moment I really needed it and I'll never forget it! and I want people to know that you are not the one which let down when most do.
You'll be welcome at any time home with or without your honney! their will be a room for you to stay as long as you want to. (I'll PM you all my coordinates as soon as after submitting this post) I'm just not a good guide ask Mark LOL ... (Paris is not my favorite place - I like the country ...Oh well) But I'll do my best if you come over to meet me to be a good guide. Maybe Narkissos will join as he did when Maverick and Mark was there
If the wedding will be in Texas It'll be perfect so I will visit Mark, Teddy, Lanee (not sure of the spelling) Virginia and Bekky ... and some others I've met previously and wanted to meet over there (If I'm invited of course - and if I can make it at that time). Anyway if you go to Amsterdam afteward for honneymoon or for visite well it will the occasion to also meet over there and see Gyles and Brenda ... And I guess you won't get married in scottland ... but damn' I would like to visite this country as much as I would like to visite Ireland.
And ho yeaaaaaah it was visible on the pics that's something was going on deeper than friendship ! (the gift of love already in your eyes - way more than friendship - Check them and you'll see by yourself).
Again congrats Diane and Ross
and take care ...
let me preface this by saying how much i enjoy learning.
i read constantly.
but as for "personal study", i did my best... i forced myself, but could never get into it.
Thanks Woodsman ... the thing is that is doesn't contradict itself this way
it says why God is really loving - it's not about obeying him it's about wanting the best to go further in being free (he can't rape us and say you're gonna do what I want - where is the free will ? nobody can be happy in not being free, but we are not alone (and being alone is not funny) so at least he can only give more to those who really want the good. and he don't want to destroy anyone before he can prove they do not deserve to go further. (that means be patient for the good once - I can't just do what I want it have to be right in every way ...) So everydody do suffer in a way or an other ...
Also I realised that Jesus is actually God's talent and wisdom (about wisdom the verses which says it straith is 1 Corinthian 2:7) So when before I was thinking why God didn't sacrified himself instead of sending his unique son, actually he did sacrified the part of him which made the decision ! That's justice !!! The concellor/leader pay the bill.
and wanting the bad is blasphemy against the Holly Spirit (hypocrisy : you know you are acting bad but you don't care and stay contagious)
To be more precise on this wanting the bad is working against the holly spirit it's leading to the bad which is blasphemy against the holly spirit (means makes lots of people wanting bad even without knowing it - religion/politic/stupidity ...). but anybody can have it's own interpretation of the bible conceptually.
Reading it by myself leaded to a very different understanding of the Word ! (when I think that I've actually get back to reading it to show to my sisters what was wrong with it ... Well ... it's weird somehow) but at least I have been able to show them the JW teaching wasn't right ...