Posts by zarco

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Latest apostate warning in Feb 15 2011 Watchtower

by dozy in

andre, who had served jehovah for years, had the bitter experience of being led astray.

by apostate thinking.

he felt that having a quick look at an apostate web site would not be dangerous.he recalls: initially, i was attracted to the so-called truths that the.

zarco

So if you quote too little, you are taking things "out of context" and if you quote too much, you are infringing copyright.

Thanks, Leo - well said

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As a JW, what did you do on Christmas Day?

by Magwitch in

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friends

growing up a jw, we always had family from out of town visit or we would go visit family.

it was fun to get together with my other jw cousins over christmas.

(however, it was hell going back to school in january as the only girl without a new sweater).. as a married jw though it was a different story.

zarco

As a JW we would go with a large group snow skiing. Every year, it was a good day.

Now we get together with our fellow apostates and family in the area. It also is a very good day.

Magwich - your ex-husband sounds like a jerk, sorry.

zarco

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Challenges Facing the Watchtower Org

by eric356 in

ive been thinking about the future of the watchtower organization and the challenges it faces in coming decades.

its difficult to address the issue without allowing personal feelings affect the analysis.

many people seem to think that the society will collapse fairly soon, based mostly on the fact that the person dislikes the leadership or cant understand how others can believe the doctrine.

zarco

Thanks, Eric for a thoughtful analysis.

zarco

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Let's Talk Baseball ! Who's your Favorite Team ? Love My S.F. Giants !

by flipper in

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friends

and they are now in 1st place in the n.l.

west with a 6-1 record !

and the hated l.a. dodgers are in last place !

zarco

It is a long flight, but I can't miss this party:)

It starts at 11:00. I will be in the park in front of City Hall with my District Convention badge... I mean Giant's cap on :)

Speaking of New Zealand .... gotta love HBO's Flight of the Conchords

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Let's Talk Baseball ! Who's your Favorite Team ? Love My S.F. Giants !

by flipper in

jw
friends

and they are now in 1st place in the n.l.

west with a 6-1 record !

and the hated l.a. dodgers are in last place !

zarco

It is funny that female friends think Lincecom is a hottie, I don't see it, but damn that guy can pitch. He had no-hit stuff last night.

The parade is tomorrow! All the way down Market to City Hall.

See you there, Mr. Flipper:)

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Do you feel sorry for the family members who shun you?

by SweetBabyCheezits in

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friends

as each instance of shunning happens to me, it seems even more ridiculous than the last.. this weekend i took our kids to the park - wife opted out, understandably - and we let our daughter call my parents to inform them we'd be there.

this was my first time in the presence of my parents since our df announcement two weeks ago.. my mom and dad were 10-20 feet away much of the time and yet they never said a greeting or.. well anything.

at one point my daughter, who is aware of the shunning, mistakenly thought my mom called my name and shouted excitedly, "mawmaw, were you talking to daddy??

zarco

Darth - so very sorry.

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Do you feel sorry for the family members who shun you?

by SweetBabyCheezits in

jw
friends

as each instance of shunning happens to me, it seems even more ridiculous than the last.. this weekend i took our kids to the park - wife opted out, understandably - and we let our daughter call my parents to inform them we'd be there.

this was my first time in the presence of my parents since our df announcement two weeks ago.. my mom and dad were 10-20 feet away much of the time and yet they never said a greeting or.. well anything.

at one point my daughter, who is aware of the shunning, mistakenly thought my mom called my name and shouted excitedly, "mawmaw, were you talking to daddy??

zarco

SBC -

Yes, I feel sorry for the WTS does to those "loyal" to it and I feel sorry for those who decide to stay "loyal" at great cost to themselves. For your parents they probably have too much invested in the organization - hours of work, friendships, a belief system - to allow them to consider leaving it. The cost to them is too great. And sadly the cost to them of shunning you is less, at least for now. As time passes, I am sure they will reconsider.

It seems that for thinking witnesses that do not practice shunning, the witness/disfellowshipped relationship still is not a full normal relationship. There is something that is held back, maybe the fear of being "caught" or possibly a guilty conscience. So even after your mom or dad start associating with you, it will still be difficult.

I think for those of us that think for ourselves, we expect the same of others. But in reality the organization punishes those who think for themselves. So I try not to judge the individuals for what they do. I have no problem judging the leadership.

You have handled yourself so well through all of this. There probably will be times when it will get to you, but the majority of the time you will enjoy your freedom and celebrate standing for principles.

All the best to you and yours,

zarco

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Let's Talk Baseball ! Who's your Favorite Team ? Love My S.F. Giants !

by flipper in

jw
friends

and they are now in 1st place in the n.l.

west with a 6-1 record !

and the hated l.a. dodgers are in last place !

zarco

Mr. Flipper -

I am torn, I want them to win tonight and I want them to win at home. Either way, it looks pretty good with Lincecom, Cain and then Bamgarner for Games 5, 6 and 7. Aubry was due, I hope it carries over to tonight.

Best,

zarco

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ks10-e (official release), Letter from Bro. who scanned it! Newer version with BOE LTRs

by yknot in

while an earlier version was made available privately the time has come to 'progress'.. conscious class and ex both strongly adhere to not keeping things 'hidden' in regards to wts publications, talks and documents which are circulated in order to maintain it's position.. another wonderful poster (who has yet to give me permission to name) has 'reduced' and 'bookmarked' the first full copy link i was given by our 'winner'.. in this newest and final 'clean' copy link you find two other additions besides the reduction/bookmarking..... the brother who uploaded the entire book wishes all to have a copy that includes both boe ltrs (pre-ks ltr and spiral binding ltr).

also another development has occurred.... the brother responsible for this book being brought into light and put forth for public consumption and discussion has requested i post this letter explaining to 'us' (jwn posters/global audience) and 'them' (wts of penn & ny).. i ask you give attention to his words/ experiences as he is representative of a newly emerging demographic within the conscious class.

so without further ado i give you his link and the 'stage' if you will to 'brother johnson'....... [link removed - contact ynot for further info - lady lee].

zarco

Ynot, Brother Johnson, belbab,

Thanks to all of you! You are doing a wonderful work.

Best to you,

zarco

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JW's are not nice people

by Nickolas in

i cut and pasted the subject line from a comment made by one of this board's longtime members.

it got me wondering if this is the prevalent thinking in here.

for a very long time i believed that jw's and all fundamentalist christian folk are a cut above the norm.

zarco

Ziddina - wonderful post! I think the issues that you describe are exactly right and are compounded by the crazed belief that the world is going to end soon which destroys any efforts for long term personal improvement because god is going to fix everything anyway.

z