OnTheWayOut
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Another JW "friend" bites the dust
by TerryWalstrom injust got word one of my favorite friends died a year ago!
only now have i heard about it.
he remained a devout jehovah's witness--so--he could not/would not speak to me.
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OnTheWayOut
Just think about that, will you?His religion predicted THE END and he remained another 40 years thinking it was going to come "soon."Yeah, many many of us know someone like that, often our family members. My mother would be one of those.Some get awake and some double down on their hopes when the date doesn't arrive as expected.My dad is going thru loss of people he worked with and lost touch with passing away. His union emails list anothrr one biting the dust virtually every week or two. It's that part of life we must accept as it reminds us that we are going to be the one biting the dust one day.My meetup group just honored the passing of one of our ex-JW's, only 62 years old. She will be missed. My wife tells me a bunch of names of people I knew from the congregation that have passed.Most JW's now are older ones who were sure the end was soon. So it will happen more and more.Sorry for your loss. Sounds like a good friend lost and then lost again to the reaper. -
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Latest update: Finally Free!
by campaign of hate ini haven’t posted here in a while, although i have been keeping an eye on the posts.
i love morpheus bluntness and sbf optimism that jw chariot is going to fall of the cliff imminently!.
as the title suggests, the latest in my life is that i’m finally free!
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OnTheWayOut
Hey, congratulations on finally being free.
I’ve had a few texts and missed calls, but expect them to come knocking soon. Going to keep my reasons strictly personal and if anything say I have doubts. I highly recommend this strategy to any one else in my situation.
That was my method of resigning as an elder and my light explanation for family. But I want to recommend that once you stated your case and walked away, DO NOT DISCUSS ANY FURTHER WITH ELDERS. Don't reply more than 'I am fine, no thanks.' to any text or call at your door. Never invite them in. If you felt pressure to meet with thrm (to avoid being df'ed) meet in public or at the hall, so you feel free to leave at any moment.
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Jw funerals
by blisterfeet ini recently posted that i found out my father is sick.
i have not found out any additional information from my family.
i’m kinda on an “as provided” basis with information.
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OnTheWayOut
I don't know your situation, but if possible, go see the living person to say your goodbye. Then if you are excluded or unwelcome to a funeral, you already had your visit and don't need their dog and pony show.
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London Protest 2018
by josephus inwell today marks the beginning and biggest day of our protest at the london excel.. we believe it's a record number at around 100 exjws at the front door.. we spoke to lots of jw's and one young man studying who has quit after talking to us.
we've been approached privately by jw's who thanked us for coming and the security at the event treated us very well.. if anyone wants to see some clips they are available on my channel the great apostate.. thanks to all for the support and love..
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OnTheWayOut
We've been approached privately by JW's who thanked us for coming
complete bullshit.
hey, if it makes you happy, protest away, but please dont fool yourself into thinking that its meaningful and dont think for one moment your self delusions are shared by anyone else.
That thought crossed my mind too. Kinda Rick-Fearon-ish.
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GB and being famous
by asp59 inhave there been a gb in the organization before that like the 'spot light' as much as the current one?
they seem to be everywhere.
from broadcasting, to magazine and selfie jws post on facebook with them..
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OnTheWayOut
When I faded in 2006-07, the GB were still mostly out of the spotlight. Your average member did not know anything of them. I wrote in my elder resignation letter that I could not continue to promote their changes in "our" beliefs because I knew little of them, and I cited scriptures that said to "know" the little flock (or some such garbage Watchtower has plenty of).
In a way, I wonder if my congregation elders think "If only OnTheWayOut had waited, since the GB have stepped out into the spotlight. He could 'know' them now."
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Were You Close To Your Non JW Family?
by minimus ini was thinking of how little i know about my father’s side of the family.
i recently inquired about ancestry.com and i’ve come to the realization that even the closest sides of my family via my father, are unknown to me .
what a shame that jehovah’s witnesses kept us apart.
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OnTheWayOut
I stayed tight with my never-a-JW father, and had enough contact with all of my non-JW family that they embraced me back into the fold fully when I said I was leaving the cult. They love doing Christmas and including me.
Only my step-grandmother (all grandparents deceased) didn't understand my leaving JW's as she felt that any Christianity was good. She claims a denomination, but never ever goes to church. But I am also in regular contact with her. Her deceased husband, my grandfather, hated organized religion and would have understood.
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London Protest 2018
by josephus inwell today marks the beginning and biggest day of our protest at the london excel.. we believe it's a record number at around 100 exjws at the front door.. we spoke to lots of jw's and one young man studying who has quit after talking to us.
we've been approached privately by jw's who thanked us for coming and the security at the event treated us very well.. if anyone wants to see some clips they are available on my channel the great apostate.. thanks to all for the support and love..
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OnTheWayOut
If one young man quit after talking to you, then everything else is gravy. It was certainly awesome.
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why the watchtower is so short of money
by pepperheart inthe watchtower is so short of money because they have to pay for all the upkeep of so many branch offices around the world.because so many of the branch offices are in very poor countries and they are not balancing the budgets.
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OnTheWayOut
I am reading this and it is something that we cannot even agree on whether they short of money or not, let alone why they would be short (or not).
Watchtower was clearly a giant publishing company that made humongous best-sellers that nobody ever really heard of. They sold the books and magazines and whatnot to Joe Publisher. In the past, Joe Publisher also sold the stuff to the public. That was Watchtower's main source of money for decades upon decades.
Members did not really contribute much money beyond buying the books. Oh, they kept the lights on at the local Kingdom Hall and put their modest contribution in at the assemblies and conventions enough for Watchtower to make a profit there. But the real money was in literature. Your average member gave them TIME, not MONEY. That is the model that members were used to.
The money train for literature ended quickly. When members were to donate and not buy the literature, they felt they were giving TIME, not so much MONEY. "Jehovah knows I don't have boatloads of money." And real growth of the organization has been stagnant with mostly kids of members joining. The old folks that are still around still think "TIME, not MONEY." Meanwhile, younger lifelong members are seeing less income from not going to college, they are seeing Watchtower demand too much and they are just not giving it.
Sure, they drop their money in the box. But what they used to drop in the box was a modest amount at the Hall, and a modest amount at the Circuit Assembly, and a modest amount at the Convention. Now, they see Watchtower saying various things about needing so much money and they take money they would have dropped in one box and drop it in the other. When the local congregation needs to pay bills, they drop it in there. But they just don't have more/more/more for the assemblies and conventions. And they figure Watchtower is getting it anyway from the Kingdom Hall, so they don't drop it in.Selling properties is a crisis management solution, not a viable way to get out of trouble.
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Why are they announcing 2019 conventions so early?
by Richard_I ini was just told there will be international conventions in canada in 2019. .
so i looked at jw.org and i see that there's a whole bunch of conventions now listed on the site for 2019.. isn't this odd?
normally we were told the location of conventions during the first week of january.. did they realize there was less in attendance in the 2018 conventions, and want to give ppl more time to make travel arrangements??
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OnTheWayOut
They definitely want more time for people to plan. First of all, back when I was in (and probably still so), you had to be approved to be accepted to travel to an international convention (despite the fact that you could just travel there on your own and go on your own).
When you are accepted, they expect you to book your travel and hotel and stuff through their approved agents and get royally ripped off. Cha-ching.
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No meetings memorial week
by Saltheart Foamfollower inthe august monthly announcements letter, among other things, says that if a memorial is midweek, there is to be no midweek meeting and if at a weekend, then no weekend meeting.
previously it was only no other meeting on the same day.
is this because so many congregations now share halls that scheduling it has become almost impossible?.
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OnTheWayOut
It could be because of so many congregations using the hall. But I will suggest that Watchtower has been seeing a dip in contributions sent in from the congregations and will try to make the Memorial seem more "special" somehow, and hope that the cancelling of meetings makes everyone feel they should give more.