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  Padron Case Settled. What happens to the fine?

  by Slidin Fast in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  it seems that irwin zalkin has obtained undisclosed settlement in the case.

  the $4000 a day fine then seems to be dead.

  the downside?

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  OnTheWayOut

  Lawyers need money. They don't take these cases to "get revenge" for sucking someone's life away. Judges also look unfavorably at plaintiffs who reject what seems to the judges as reasonable settlements. And the GB is pretty well insulated from criminal charges in all of theses cases.
  
  Victims need to move on. Even if money were not a factor for a person, spending their life chasing after Watchtower would be such a negative experience in their life. Better to go live your life after accepting that offering a settlement is a small piece of "admitting guilt" in some way.
  
  Some of you all want to find the perfect victim- a billionaire lawyer taking on Watchtower for his own abuse case- someone who doesn't need the money and has such a perfect case to prove "they knew" and at the same time he is not just walking away from it because he enjoys sitting in courts and lawyers' offices and hates spending time with grandchildren or relaxing on the beach.
  
  I would hurt Watchtower as much as possible if I could, but at the end of the day, a reasonable settlement is the most these people can hope for.
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  Columbia, SC and Arleta, CA members - I need your help

  by RunAwayDaughter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my 18-year-old daughter in columbia, sc ran away to arleta, ca to move in with jw family.

  they are living together with the mother's permission in her house along with 10 other family members.

  she is surrounded by jws 24 hours a day, seven days a week.. is there anyone in the columbia area who would be willing to help me - maybe meet for a cup of coffee or facetime.

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  OnTheWayOut

  I know it is a very serious situation, Jehovah's Witnesses being a cult and all, but it's more like what THE GIRL NEXT DOOR describes than you think.
  
  She is considered an adult and JW's are not involved in illegal activities, nor are they a sex cult or a drug cult. The biggest issue you would have is her feeling there is no place to turn to if she wants to leave. So if you aid her, show some normal adult reactions to her situation, she will feel she could come to you. Offer to send her an ID or birth certificate so she can get an ID in California. Tell her that anytime she wants to visit, if you can help, you will do what you can to purchase a transportation ticket.
  
  I would love to tell you she will tire of this situation and come home in days or weeks or months, but I don't know that. She may very well be in a loving environment.
  
  Finding Kingdom Halls is as simple as going to jwdotorg and going to the bottom of the page somewhere to "FIND A MEETING." I don't see the need to discover which Kingdom Hall/Congregation she attends. I hate the cult of Jehovah's Witnesses, but I don't think she is in real danger based on that connection alone. If you don't plan to "turn her in for fornication" to the congregation (and I highly recommend that you do not turn her in) then it matters little which building she goes to and which elders talk to her.
  
  Our opinions may change as this story develops, so please keep posting. It is not okay for JW's to tolerate fornication under their roof and it is not okay for her to progress toward becoming a JW in such a situation. So things will change for her. Continue to be there for her, but continue to learn what's going on with her- not so much in desperation, but be part of her life.
  
  Otherwise, I pretty much agree with THE GIRL NEXT DOOR to offer to be helpful to her.
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  2 Kingdom Halls burned in Washington

  by Lynnie in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  on the local news last night it was reported that two kingdom halls in olympia wa were set fire to.

  i wonder who has a grudge with those congregations?

  unfortunately we know the jw"s eat this crap up and enjoy the "persecution.

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  OnTheWayOut

  I wonder who has a grudge with those congregations?

  
  Who doesn't have a grudge? I am hopeful nobody, including emergency responders, was hurt. And it does feed "their" persecution complex, so it really doesn't help any of them to exit the cult just because their building was burned.
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  Classic Talk Regarding KH Consolidation

  by lepermessiah in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  last night i was listening in as my spouse was on the phone line.

  there was a big "local needs" talk announced and it was speculated to be about the congregation reshuffling.. that ended up to be the case.

  i thought i used to lay it on thick from the platform....... this was the ultimate spin job - worthy of political office or a spot on the governing body.. one thing that stood out "while the numbers may not necessarily indicate it, it is clear jehovah is speeding up the work".

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  OnTheWayOut

  One thing that stood out "While the numbers may not necessarily indicate it, it is clear Jehovah is speeding up the work".

  "While nothing seems to indicate we are right, it is clear we are right."

  ...this is direction coming from Jehovah.

  
  The old double standard. "Everything we say and do is from Jehovah. Until it is reversed or didn't work out so well, then we are 'spirit-directed' and not "

  'inspired' but still.....somehow we should be obeyed as if we get our garbage right from Jehovah's mouth."
  
  
  
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  The next time I see the cart babysitters

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  the next time i see the jdubs standing or sitting by their carts sipping their coffee lattes or updating their facebook pages, i am going to approach them with the following thought process acting as an interested person.. do jw's believe the end is near?.

  do you consider your preaching work to be urgent?.

  why do you just let people walk by if their very lives are at stake?

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  While I know what you mean, they are braced for such questions.

  "We are here to be used by Jehovah as tools when He draws "deserving ones to His undeserved kindness."
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  Thanks

  by Akid48 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hey its me if any one remembers me,i just wanted to post saying that ive been doing well.right now im just trying to live life and have some fun while im still a kid.it still sucks to have to go to meetings etc.. like the title i wanted to say thanks for the people that helped me when i was posting a lot.i might post some times but not as much as i used to..

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  Hey, you are welcome to whatever this forum does to help you. I hope the best for you.
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  Sincere question to those who no longer believe in God

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i get it, not a fan of yahweh the desert god.

  but what about jesus?

  anything wrong with his teachings like the sermon on the mount and the example he set.

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  OnTheWayOut

  So much money is wasted on worship (or semi-worship) to Jesus and people letting preachers tell them how to live. The hope with Jesus is for some kind of life after death, so these people throw away not only their money but their precious time for a never-realized future reward.
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  Life is a bag of Sh^t

  by JRK in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  happy st. paddy's day.. that being said, life is a bag of shit.. so please give me some sort of positivity in this post.. i wish i could get it from whom i would like it from, but that is a bullshit dream.. life sucks then you die!.

  jk.

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  OnTheWayOut

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq0yEI_xpb8
  
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  Why do you think they changed Ester and Christ death from?

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i believe the early christians going back as far as constantine changed the ritual of a savior coming and the resurrection of the messiah from the spring equinox to the following full moon.

  or should i say the full moon after the spring equinox.

  so why the change?

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  OnTheWayOut

  Sorry, I named the years he might have been born.

  They calculate the death of Jesus as having taken place between AD 30 and 36.

  Pretty wide range.
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  disfellowshipped and looking to find someone in the same possition

  by whatisgoingonpls in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  where can i find a disfellowshipped wife ;)

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  OnTheWayOut

  If she's a gorgeous looking blonde with a great personality. Who cares what her background is 😉

  
  If you got one of those for him, I imagine he can get past her not being a disfellowshipped JW.
  While you are at it, independently wealthy might be nice too.
  
  Seriously folks, there is nothing wrong with wanting to find someone who "gets it" because they were there.