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  Why did the Governing Body come behind the curtain?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in the movie the wizard of oz, while the whole yellow brick road gang was being addressed by the great and powerful wizard of oz, the dog toto ran off to the side, pulled back on a curtain, and showed that a normal-looking humbug of a person was operating cranks and levers.

  for a short while, the normal-looking man kept yanking levers and cranking cranks, and said into the microphone (which made the great and powerful wizard speak the same words) "pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!

  i am the great and powerful wiz .

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  OnTheWayOut

  Two things- The latest Governing Body was stacked with "Ted Jaracz Yes-Men." He and the gang put a bunch of organizational ass-kissers in, so they could retain power with a voting block. WELL, THEY ARE FREE OF TED NOW, able to think for themselves, only they don't think for themselves.

  The second thing is that money is hemorrhaging like crazy. Large printing corporations are dead or near dead. Some money people at Watchtower are focused on managing the crisis by selling Brooklyn and now selling Kingdom Halls. They probably told the GB (the guys who don't think well for themselves) to re-invent Watchtower as a charismatic-leaders organization and to do it within a set time (like a decade or so) to abandon printing.
  They just forgot that these guys are not very charismatic.
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  Why the JW org should fail.

  by Half banana in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  dr margaret t singer, a professor of psychology at berkeley university california has studied the experiences of 700 cult members.

  ''consciously and manipulatively, leaders and their trainers exert a systematic social influence that can produce great behavioral changes,'' said dr. singer.. .

  one of the ways the jw organisation exerts so much influence over its members is because it has created a culture sustained by constant propaganda, which polices itself according to how the leadership has moulded it.

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  OnTheWayOut

  Basically, it's a cult and the internet will further expose it's ways.
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  Kingdom Hall ... BURGER KING?

  by sparky1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i live in a very rural part of the northeastern united states.

  after 9 years of waiting, the local witnesses are getting their new kingdom hall.

  it is being built on a back road next to a sandpit.

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  OnTheWayOut

  Here's a fascinating page of different KH's
  
  https://www.pinterest.com/wgyasovsky/kingdom-halls-of-jehovahs-witnesses/
  
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  Watchtower and Awake in the cafeteria of my work place

  by StephaneLaliberte in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  someone at my workplace, i don't know who, is a jw and has been leaving magazines in the cafeteria.

  any suggestion as to what i could do?

  i thought of writing up a note stating: "to whoever is bringing these magazine: jw have broken up my family, please don't bring religion to work.

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  OnTheWayOut

  Get some stickers that simply say "Get the real truth at jwfacts.com." Place them on all the literature. Place them on the surface where the literature is normally left.
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  Anyone struggle to find meaning in life?

  by Good JW in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just wondering if this is a common thing for you guys and girls?

  when i left the jws it was hard to make a connection with people, much of the time i felt that whatever they wanted to talk about just didn't seem relevant/deep/meaningful.

  i find myself filtering my mind to get to a level with others (small talk mostly).

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  OnTheWayOut

  FIND MEANING IN LIFE?
  
  Everyone who isn't living in crisis mode does that- crisis mode being a life where day-to-day living is too full of problems to allow for anything beyond getting through the day.
  
  Jehovah's Witnesses told me that life has a meaning and God has a purpose for me. That was all hogwash nonsense. So does that mean that life does not have a meaning? Sort of, but it doesn't have to be that way.

  Although many are selfish meanings, people can give their own life it's own meaning. You find a purpose. If it's to pass on wisdom to another generation and do your part to perpetuate your genes, so be it. If it's to leave earth a little cleaner for the next generation, to save the puppies, to rid the earth of ignorance of some subject, etc. etc. etc. so be it then too.
  
  I had a longer answer at my fingertips to type, but I think you can figure out the rest.
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  What Is The Major Reason Jehovah’s Witnesses Exist?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i understand that cults and religious groups will always exist.

  but why do jehovah’s witnesses continue as a religion that people will join?.

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  OnTheWayOut

  Well, people are barely "joining" it today. It's mostly some of the children of members joining because of pressure from family and growing up in it and not knowing better.

  But since there are still some adult recruits joining, and since I was an adult when I joined, I will try to answer. Granted, my joining was preceded by childhood exposure to the beliefs as the only religious training I received, but I can still try to answer.
  I joined because I was in a state of emotional turmoil. I needed some kind of comfort, and the JW's had a false offer of that comfort. Some would join for answers to their problems, be they substance abuse, loneliness, boredom, some may join because of what JW's seem to have- instant answers to everything with their paradise and destruction of the wicked.
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  Did electrical energy evolve or was it created?

  by atomant in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  lt appears this topic has not been debated.energy has to come from something it doesn't come from nothing..

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  OnTheWayOut

  This is just a back-door way to preach Creation.
  
  
  
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  I am getting disfellowshipped

  by CitizenofEarth in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  maybe some of you remember me, maybe not.

  for general information i am now 19 years old, and living by myself.

  for the past 1 year (more like 1.5 years) i have been quietly fading out of the hypocrisy of this organization, but since i still live in the town i grew up in it has been hard, and filled with different challenges.

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  OnTheWayOut

  I join the chorus of voices.

  Congratulations on sticking up for your friends and not giving the elders any power over you.

  And I would also say anything you want to teach them, prove to them, whatever, is falling on closed minds. Better to keep giving them no power by not showing up.

  If you must go, you do it for yourself, not for them.
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  My father also molested my DAUGHTER!

  by alamb in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  needing advise.

  i was on here years ago fighting for custody of my daughters.

  the court gave us a joint arrangement.

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  OnTheWayOut

  I don't know that you have any case or not. Try talking to the law group that tries to MAKE these into cases instead of one that may or may not be trying such:
  
  http://zalkin.com/what-we-do/sexual-abuse-cases/jehovahs-witness-abuse/
  
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  Talking Janet Jackson and Religious Freedom with the Wife

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my recent sidewalk discussion with a couple of jw's has gotten me in the mood to say more when appropriate.so the wife and i were riding in the car and cat stevens comes on.

  i mentioned to her that cat stevens left music when he was still popular and converted to islam back in the 1970's- how he was told that his music would have to be morally acceptable and he found it easier to just abandon making new music for at least 20 years.

  so i didn't really remember all the details and i figured the conversation would die.

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  OnTheWayOut

  Etude, I couldn't always speak this stuff with my wife, and I have to tread carefully much of the time still. But time and drops of water wear down all things.