While I am out, I am still surrounded by JW family. NO- my life is not ruined. I am doing well at moving on. I have a great career that I love, but I will never 100% move on because of my family. I am a wee bit bitter at the wasted time and their keeping my loved ones captive.
Sorry for the mixed answer. I can't decide how far my pendulum should swing on this one.
OnTheWayOut
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Do You Feels That Your Life Was Ruined Because of Ypur JW Experience?
by minimus ini know that some are upset because of the time lost because of ever having been a witness.
have you moved on as an ex jw or are you stil devastated because of your past jw lige?.
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Charging $150 To Tell Your Stories
by Bangalore inhttps://www.indiegogo.com/projects/how-to-escape-from-jehovah-s-witnesses-religion#/.
for $150: collaboration with the backer so that their story of successfully escaping an abusive belief system (300 words max) features along with others in the final pages of how to escape from jehovah's witnesses.
the text will be written by the author but will include a minimum of one quote worded by the backer.
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I would like to write another book. I have a job and spare time, but to really dedicate myself to it, I would rather you guys fund me. I find that sitting in a beach chair on a tropical beach most inspiring, so I will need quite a bit of money. But trust me, I will be hard at work.
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Is this life all there is?
by Fisherman inwhat do you sincerely think?
do you nurture any hope?.
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Life is chemical/electrical. Every last bit of our life is based on that. When you die, there is no crossing over to "something else." There is nothing that survives like a soul and passes into a spirit world or another body.
Live, love, enjoy.
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Charging $150 To Tell Your Stories
by Bangalore inhttps://www.indiegogo.com/projects/how-to-escape-from-jehovah-s-witnesses-religion#/.
for $150: collaboration with the backer so that their story of successfully escaping an abusive belief system (300 words max) features along with others in the final pages of how to escape from jehovah's witnesses.
the text will be written by the author but will include a minimum of one quote worded by the backer.
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This guy guy has become the modern day Charles Taze Russell snake oil salesman.
Barbara Anderson will post your story for free on Watchtowerdocuments . org. Reading is free.
Information from JWFacts is free. So many people have helped others for free. Some make a modest amount of money from their efforts, but what i see is people from Ray Franz on down to Kyria Abrahams who wrote their books and then hoped people will pay for it. I don't know of any of them that got rich, but even if they did somehow, they didn't put the P.T. Barnum act out there.
Lloyd, nobody has a big problem with you writing a book and selling it. Those of us that remember the debacle you stirred up on FB with that group will simply avoid the book. Those that like your videos and don't know what a con you are will buy the book. But I think it has crossed a line to get funded for such a book.
If anyone needs genuine emotional and psychological help getting out, EXITING THE JW CULT by Bonnie Zieman is a great book. Books by Steven Hassan on cults are excellent. They are priced reasonable. You can tell your story here on this forum or at Barbara Anderson's site or on FB without paying a slimy snake oil salesman to do it. If you tell it here, we are kind and don't need to edit it and change it and you can post all the pics you want with it. -
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The speed with which I exited!!
by joe134cd ini was just thinking at how quickly the process was from pimi - pimo - pomo.
i must of spent about 10 years trudging along in the organization very unhappily.
but from the initial stages of learning ttatt to physically walking out the door the process took about 18 months.
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Yours is a rather quick exit. "Faders" are what we are typically called if we went through those stages- PIMI - PIMO - POMO. Many many faders are still quite regular in meetings for years. I get it for those wanting to see family members get out, but only if those family members are actually progressing.
For me, personal sanity/happiness and a need to face my demons caused me to make one attempt with my JW wife, then when I saw her not even willing to consider that it wasn't the truth, I faded out really quick. I went from figuring out for sure that it was a dangerous cult in Spring and resigning as an elder in August and ceasing all the recruiting work that same month to actually being 100% gone by the time of the next Memorial. So it was a year total.
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I examined the Bible the same way I examined Watchtower. I thought that "Christendom" might be right. But the Bible was lacking- it was man-made.
A brief look at belief outside of Christianity showed me it was futile to actually look at each and every variance of rekigions- they are all man-made.
I found comfort in the way science seeks truth. It is if great comfort.
If you want absolute proof that something is the truth or that something does or does not exist, you are out of luck. But enjoy the journey of seeking.
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Millions Then Living Did Not Survive
by Fred Franztone init's almost 2018, almost 100 years since 'judge' rutherford confidently prophesied that 'millions now living will never die!'..
so how many of those millions are left?
well, since it was 100 years ago, all we need to do is find out how many people of age 100 and above are currently living.
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Worldwide figures are scientific estimates, but the rosiest estimates still say about hslf-a-million or less of the world population is over 100 years old.
So the "millions" are gone. Soon, all those alive in 1914 will be gone.
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My Father passed away & i'm suicidal. I want to talk to somebody
by Qrystal inin summary, my dad passed away not to long ago, 8 months ago, on april while i was 12. i'm 13 and i've been grieving for 6 months now and im suicidal.
i'm not doing this to get attention, but to talk to someone.
my dad was a jehovah's witness and i want to talk to all of you.
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OnTheWayOut
The people here are mostly former Jehovahs Witnesses who figured out that the religion is not "the truth."
Other than that, we are sure to want to listen to/read what you want to say.
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Wife came home upset ...
by The Fall Guy in... because she'd stepped into some newly laid concrete.. i said to her, "don't be too hard on yourself.
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This farmer was outstanding in his field. So the other farmers gave him an award.
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Higher Education
by Brian J injust spent 8 hours in a 1 day elders school last weekend.
clarification given: "moving forward any elder, ms, or pioneer who themselves or someone under their roof enrolls in higher education, may no longer qualify for privileges in the congregation.
their qualifications will have to be reviewed by their boe.".
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snare&racket-
Simple solution....
Leave the cult and let your kids go to school.
An Organisation that punishes people for getting an education?! enough said! That’s a crazy cult, there is no excuse to stay a day longer! Get out, get your kids out.
Left 12 yrs ago, went to university, best thing I ever did.Half the time, I post a quote and the stuff I type below it disappears. So let me try again.
Even if they don't leave the religion, I bet more and more elders/MS/pioneers send their kids to college and let the congregation remove them if they want to. IT's THEIR KIDS, and they want more for them.
I would think it was an excellent way to get out of that assignment.