BabaYaga

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  Friends are dying ... too much to bear.

  by compound complex in

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  dear friends,.

  another friend in "the truth" has died.

  this and dear brother ray's condition .... too much.. how do you cope?.

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  BabaYaga

  Beloved CoCo (and Coffee, too)

  I wish I could offer hugs and cups of hot tea, but all I have are typed words.

  I have the oddest feeling regarding the passing of Brother Franz, and it is not of sorrow. It is only of gratitude, love, and oddly, somewhat of gladness. I truly do feel that he has "returned unto the Fullness" (to give words to that which has no explanation.) I feel this is just a transition for him.

  We have been truly blessed to have had him exist in this life. The good that he has done shall not be undone, and that in itself is a wonder. I have already posted this on another thread, but let me say again: If, at the time of my death, I have just one person who adores me as much as the countless thousands who adore dear Ray, then I will know I have done something right.

  Blessings, smiles, and strength to us all.

  Love,
  Baba.
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  A question of life, death and legacy….

  by onemore in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  death is all around us.

  sometimes it strikes so near to us, and yet we dont feel its sting so much.

  sometimes it strikes far from us, let the distance be time, space or familiarity, and yet we feel like a part of us has been lost.

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  “Life is uncertain and when a man dies what he knows dies along with him - unless he passes it on while still in life” Raymond Franz – Crisis of Conscience.

  If you can still read or feel these words Ray…Thank you for passing on what you knew. Your words gave us reassurance, hope, comfort and brought some of us closer to God.

  Beautiful. Thank you for posting this perfect quote at this time.

  Love,
  Baba.
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  Update on Ray, I think this needs a new thread

  by coffee_black in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  updating,.

  it is confirmed that cynthia will be signing the papers this morning to remove ray from life support.

  if anyone has posted their address on the internet, it is requested that you remove it for the safety of cynthia and those who are with her.

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  Thank You Raymond Franz

  by Guest with Questions in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  with sadness we just heard that you have gone home.. this is a simple note of gratitude.. you were instrumental in my 80 year old mom leaving this organization after 37 years.

  she is so thankful that she finally realized that this organization is a high control cult.

  she is in a much better place and feels closer to "jehovah" god and jesus than she ever did as a witness.

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  Thank you for who you were and all that you did while here with us. Thank you.

  Rest in peace, light, and joy.

  Love,
  Baba.
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  Rules For JW Apologists Using the Interwebs

  by besty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it seems that many of the 'jw" apologists who find their way on here are similar.

  coincidence?

  here is a sample from the rulebook they all use:.

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  BabaYaga

  Bravo, Besty.
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  Ray Franz has had a stroke

  by coffee_black in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just setting the record straight.

  there is another thread that notes a claim on wiki that said that ray has died.. he had a stroke yesterday, and is in the hospital.

  he is still alive.

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  Coffee, I just want to thank you for keeping us all updated.

  If, at the time of my death, I have just one person who adores me as much as the countless thousands who adore Dear Ray, I will know I have done something right.

  Love,
  Baba.
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  TODAY is MrsJones' Birthday!

  by StAnn in

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  lotsa love,.

  stann.

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  Happy birthday, Jonesie!!!

  

  Love,
  Baba.
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  Silly things I wondered as a kid

  by exwhyzee in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if god is like a loving father why did he set up a way for adam and eve to possibly fail by putting the "magic tree" in the garden?

  if my dad sabotaged his kids this way or felt the need to test our love him he'd be considered an abusive father.. when god put an angel with a spinning sword in front of the entrance to the garden why didn't a&e walk a few miles down from there and climb over the wall ?

  was there a wall ?.

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  Hearty welcome, EmergedAsMe! What a great user-name!

  Love,
  Baba.
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  I used to be an apologist as well, however no more

  by gubberningbody in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it's funny how when you think you've gotten queued up in the paradise line how you'll pooh pooh detractors.. age has a way of sobering you up.. of course the internet was a great help.. if you want to find out what's wrong with anything, all you have to do is select the topic and throw in a pejorative, and bam!, you've got hundreds if not thousands of people who'll give you the other side.. if you've not in a jw family, and you're not a mental troglodyte, i can't see anyone making that koolaid-bath plunge into jw-land..

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  Gubberning said:

  The gist was that when you're particularly clever (or think you are) in arguing your position you imagine this to mean that you are correct.

  Interesting.

  It took me a while to admit that I had been an apologist, too... I was inactive, and had absolutely no intention of going back, but I made endless excuses for them. I swept a lot of things under the rug and was still in denial about how incredibly dangerous they are.

  Let's just say I was tolerant of their intolerance. It took me finding this site (completely by accident, Googling something completely unrelated) and running across the news about the UN involvement to open my eyes, sever the ties, and shake the denial right out of me.
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  Silly things I wondered as a kid

  by exwhyzee in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if god is like a loving father why did he set up a way for adam and eve to possibly fail by putting the "magic tree" in the garden?

  if my dad sabotaged his kids this way or felt the need to test our love him he'd be considered an abusive father.. when god put an angel with a spinning sword in front of the entrance to the garden why didn't a&e walk a few miles down from there and climb over the wall ?

  was there a wall ?.

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  ExWhyZee said:

  If people are going to die at Armageddon if they don't listen to our message at the door, wouldn't it be better not to tell them about it ?

  Wow! My husband, who has never been a Witness, once asked me this about the Witnesses!!! I love it! Logic is NOT their strong suit.