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  Do you have a Facebook Page? and if so

  by DeeDubs in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what do you have on the info page for religion?.

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  LisaRose

  I didn't put anything. I like my son's repsonse - he put "no thank you"
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  Tyrant of a wife!

  by whatistruth in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if i divulged just a few things she had done to me, you would never believe it.

  i don't believe in this utter nonsense at all!

  it is make belief brainwashing fear and guilt.

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  LisaRose

  I left my first husband and the cult at the same time. It can be done, it's difficut. I've been out and happily married for 10 years. The most important thing is for you to realize that you are free to do what you want. It's a free country as they say. You don't seem to realize this, and until you do, you are trapped. Your chains are in your head. You are in an unhealthy and toxic relationship, there is notwhere else to go with it. The most important thing is to be prepared and be sure that you are leaving and not coming back. Do not engage in any argument with your wife. It's futile and just feeds into her metal illness. See a lawyer, get you ducks in a row and just leave. Do not discuss or tell her in advance, that will get you nowhere. Call an elder in the congo to serve as an itermediary. Don't ask them, just tell them and ask that they tell her. That may mitigate the worst of her behavior as she will not act that way in front of them, if she want to stay in the cult. Use that. Get a restraining order if you have to.

  Until you are ready, do not argue with her. It really does take two to argue, so you need to change your behaviour and realize what buttons she is pusing to get you to respond. I would just say "I'm sorry, I suggest you get mental help" no matter what she says. Practice that in front of a mirror. Once you leave, block any calls from her. My ex was nasty and angry, but in the end did nothing. I hope you are as lucky, but if not, you are still better off getting it over with.

  The only thing worse than spending 10 years in a miserable marriage is 11 years or 28 years. Trust me, I know. I hope you have a great new life.
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  Ton Ten REASONS why Jehovah's Witnesses simply can't abide reality

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  1.the organization itself denies access to reality and substitutes its own version, interpretations and meanings.. a.only watchtower approved publications are allowed.. b.no higher education is to be pursued.. c.no non-jw friends or associations are encouraged with their "outside" points of view.. d.no free-style questioning of doctrine or criticism permitted.

  curiousity is verboten.. e.threat of being "marked" or disassociated looms over them.

  2.between every real-world event and the rank and file jw's mind is a roadblock.. a.the moment of identifying is short-circuited by an interpretive moment of re-labeling in watchtower-speak.. b.all things happening are forced into a narrow storyline and propagandized as end times happenings leading to armageddon.. 3.social and personal identity is expunged and replaced by a collective persona: "jehovah's witness".. a.private thinking is red-flagged as selfish and sinful.. b.personal improvement, welfare and ambition is crushed and door-to-door ministry substituted as "worthy" endeavors.. c.self-conscious obsession permeates witness awareness as each person is transformed into a public spectacle of performance for judgement.. d.since you aren't an individual you don't really have a right to fall in love and marry or educate or earn.

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  LisaRose

  Wow...... a very good summation of it all.
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  Say it together now: "itsacult"

  by pirata in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i dedicate this thread to itsacult.. everyone say it:.

  "itsacult".

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  LisaRose

  itsafreakincult, yes it is
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  Rejected by Immediate Family

  by LoriJis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as most of you know, my husband and i da's ourselves almost 8 months ago.

  the communication with my family stayed pretty normal.

  they would call once in a while and text me.

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  LisaRose

  I don't think it will help you any to lash out at them at this point. Yes, being shunned hurts, but they have been brainwashed to belive that this is the only to "help" you. You have rejected their religion and their way of life and it hurts for them too. If you do write an email, just state that you wish to live your life as you beleive is right, and that you are comfortable with your decision and happy with your life as it is, and that you hope someday they will understand. We have all been in your place and yes, it hurts. Know that it does get better with time. I am glad you are reaching out to your more distant family, as this will help you fill that void left by you immediate family. You will also find that you will meet friends along the way, some who will become as family to you. Treasure these relationships. Maybe someday you family will come around, maybe not. In the meantime, live you life with dignity and love and they will see that leaving the religion does not make you a bad person or ruin your life. As they say "living well is the best revenge"
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  What's The Best XMas Value You Have See Seen This Year?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  tvs seem to be very well priced this year but i see little huge sales around on anything.

  i heard walmart raised all their toy prices for the christmas season!.

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  LisaRose

  I found a coupon online for target.com good for 10% off most items and they have free shipping on orders over $50. I was able to find gifts for my son, daughter-in-law and grandaughterm, had them giftwrapped and shipped for less than it would have been to wrap and ship myself. The discount was on couponcabin.com (not sure if it's still in effect).
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  Does your Cat want to sit on your Lap while you are on the Toilet .....?

  by flipper in

  1. social
  2. humour

  i don't know what it is ...... but it's becoming disconcerting.

  he's going to just have to sit outside the door and wait.

  i know it will be dissappointing to him , as he purrs like crazy while gathering in the experience.

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  LisaRose

  Whenever I get home, I usually head right for the potty, and my cat is so happy to see me she rushes in, jumps on the counter, leans out and plants a kiss with her little furry lips. Really strange.
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  POLL: Can you turn your mind off?

  by Lady Lee in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok ladies you know how this goes.

  you ask your man, "what are you thinking about?

  now i have had more than one man tell me this.

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  LisaRose

  I cannot turn my mind off. The closest I've come has been to meditate, and I really have to work at it. And even then, I'm not thinking about "nothing", just focusing on some very simple visualization. I daydream, where I am not thinking about what's going on around me (like I used to do at the meeting), and my mind is skipping around on pleasant subjests, but I wouldn't call that nothing.
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  Need advice on nasty ex-spouses

  by mamalove in

  1. social
  2. family

  need some advice from anyone with a nasty ex please.

  mine is a bitter, nasty jw, who has a very small iq, low self esteem, bad temper, and upset he got dumped and rejected basically to sum it all up.

  so anytime we have to deal with each other on a topic such as the kids, doctor visits and stuff like that, he texts me nasty little digs and insults my parenting and tries to pump himself up to be superdad.

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  LisaRose

  My ex still refers to me (to my kids) as "your mother, the whore". I did leave him and married somone else, but did not fool around while we were married. He has ruined his relationship with his kids because he can't get past the bitterness. It's very sad really. Fortunately our children were grown before I left him, so I didn't have to ever deal with him.
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  WHY? WHY? WHY?

  by Reopened Mind in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  thats the question i keep asking myself once i began learning the truth about the truth.

  one definition according to merriam-websters collegiate dictionary is the body of real things, events, and facts.

  another (often cap) is a transcendent, fundamental or spiritual reality.

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  LisaRose

  I read your story with interest. I too converted as a 13 year old, just a few years after you. I had many of the same thoughts as you did and also swallowed the BS hook line and sinker. At that age your thinking skills are just not developed and of course, as a JW, they never will be. good luck on your exit, thanks for sharing.