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  Revelations about life after...

  by WLG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i lost my password in the move and since my old e-mail is dead, i have ot use this screenname.

  if a mod reads this please pm me to let me know what to do.

  i had this problem about a year ago and it was never resolved.. thanks!

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  serotonin_wraith

  timmycat:

  what the bible says of course,

  It amazes me how so many people think the Bible is the only religious book apparently inspired by a god!

  when youre dead youre dead you know nothing at all. So if one has faith then we believe what the bible says, no one has come back because the bible is right, that is faith.

  Except Lazarus and Jesus though, right?

  And doesn't the Bible teach about heaven and (a debatable) hell that exists for some when you die?

  the person that wrote that scripture was obviously not dead nor had died, so he got his information of God

  Or he lied, or he was crazy...
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  What do we believe Mommy?

  by lrkr in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my wife just took a class on hinduism and buhddism (sp??

  ) and she is telling our son about it.

  she tells him about how in tibet they believe that the dalai lama has been born 114 times and that the current dalai lama could identify the personal possessions of the previous one when he was 4 years old- thus "proving" that he was the reborn lama.. my son, bewildered, says- "but do we believe that?".

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  serotonin_wraith

  I think it's a great idea to let children be free to believe what they want. I would have gone a step further when your child said "But do we believe that?" and told him that you are all individuals in the family, and each person can believe in anything they want. The question should have been 'Do YOU believe that?' I know he's only young, but putting that across in a way he could understand would have been something I'd have done.
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  We have the truth

  by MutualRespectPlease in

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  2. friends

  i will be respectful.

  but in reading past posts it seems we are allowed to speak frankly?

  i think jehovah's witnesses have the truth.

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  serotonin_wraith

  I think it would be fair to say that given enough reason, we would believe in your teachings.

  However, the (debatable) point that being a Jehovah's Witness makes one happier is not reason enough to make it the truth. It just means there are people that are happier in your religion.

  Are you able to provide reasons why your religion is 'the truth'? It astounds me that you can say 'It is true because so many people are happy with it'. Don't you see how silly that looks?
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  Proof of God's existence

  by Blackboo in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  from a logical point....i notice that in these threads that there are few here who dont believe in god..but i hate to tell you your dead wrong for having such an ignorant belief like that..instead ya,ll are blaming religion, people, and your personal problems for your lack of faith in god..thats dead wrong.

  the non-believers are not looking at the whole picture..just the present..the things that go on in the world happen for a reason and it doesnt mean god doesnt exist.

  the bible says "the fool has said in his heart god doesnt exist".

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  serotonin_wraith

  Why do humans murder each other?

  It could be partly because they believe the creator of the universe wants them to, as it's written in their holy books.

  Less religion = less killing.
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  Seeing Patterns That Aren't There?

  by hmike in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in his book, how we believe, religious skeptic michael shermer states "in our complex and contingent world, random events often happen in seemingly peculiar sequences that cry out for meaning.

  we usually rise to the occasion, finding patterns in nature even when they do not exist or have no real significance...." a claim somewhat along this line was made in the tv show numb3rs by mathematics professor epps--that people look for, and think they find, patterns in random events.. you can't watch a movie or tv show about crime without seeing detectives attempting to solve crimes by trying to find patterns in a collection of information.

  they work backwards from the end result to find links between the pieces of information and possibly back to a cause.. yes, we look for patterns.

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  serotonin_wraith

  hmike:

  What you said to the Christian is one side of the picture--one possibility. But if the Christian maintains that an unexpected, improbable event is due to God's intervention, how can anyone really dispute it unless the preson presumes God doesn't exist or doesn't intervene. It may look like it could be a coincidence, but that doesn't mean for sure it is.

  You're right. It's the same as saying one cannot disprove God. Perhaps not, but we can make other claims about the origin of these 'coincidental' things that are on equal footing. If someone wants to claim God is behind these things, they must also accept that there is just as much proof for Santa being behind it, the Easter Bunny being behind it, an invisible pixie controlling our fate, etc. While those things may seem ridiculous, they shouldn't be ignored if we are to respect the idea that God is behind unexpected things.
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  UK-BOLD 'brought up in the faith but despise it'

  by DannyHaszard in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  (as i type this the watchtower cult is getting slammed on all the news wires) bold testimony i was brought up in the faith but despise it.

  ic wales, united kingdom -1 hour ago.

  both my parents were devout jehovahs witnesses and throughout my childhood i was indoctrinated by the faiths beliefs and behaviours by being excluded from.... i was brought up in the faith but despise itjul 27 2007. by our correspondent, south wales echo i was sorry to read of 72-year-old grandmother margaret cornelius who died after refusing a blood transfusion because she was a jehovahs witness.

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  serotonin_wraith

  I know someone else living at Pilton Vale, I'm not too far from there. Small world!
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  Seeing Patterns That Aren't There?

  by hmike in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in his book, how we believe, religious skeptic michael shermer states "in our complex and contingent world, random events often happen in seemingly peculiar sequences that cry out for meaning.

  we usually rise to the occasion, finding patterns in nature even when they do not exist or have no real significance...." a claim somewhat along this line was made in the tv show numb3rs by mathematics professor epps--that people look for, and think they find, patterns in random events.. you can't watch a movie or tv show about crime without seeing detectives attempting to solve crimes by trying to find patterns in a collection of information.

  they work backwards from the end result to find links between the pieces of information and possibly back to a cause.. yes, we look for patterns.

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  I was having a debate with a Christian about coincidences versus God's intervention recently, so I'll share a few points I made.

  Even if something completely unexpected happens more than once, even several times, it can still be down to coincidence. For example, if you roll a die and get a six, and roll the die again and get another six, and another, and another, you would be amazed. But there is still a 1 in 6 chance of rolling a 6 each time. Those odds don't change. You are just as likely to get a 6 as you are to get any other number. Another example would be winning the lottery. The odds against that are extremely high, yet people do win. In fact, some people win the lottery twice or more. Is God helping them, or is it just common sense to know that even if the odds of something very unusual happening are astronomical, there are still times unusual things will happen?

  Then there's self fulfilling prophecies, in which people focus on the things that back up their beliefs, while ignoring other things. It's like a favourite song on the TV- you may hear it 5 times in one day, and come to the conclusion that the music channels have 'answered your prayers'. But if you were to get hold of the complete listings to all the TV music channels, you may find that several other songs were played more. The reason you hadn't noticed this would be because you were only looking out for your song. If indeed it had been played the most, it would not have anything to do with you personally. It would only point to the fact it is a popular song, and it just happened to coincide with your favourite song too.

  Even if we somehow disprove other explanations, it does not mean God becomes the default answer. It may have been Krishna, or Mars, or Neptune. And while you may pray to the god of the Bible, another god may be the one who answers because people stopped talking to him or her long ago.

  So in conclusion, I think with the endless amount of possible outcomes, it makes sense that on occasion, things we perceive as unusual or amazing are bound to happen.
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  JW Kingdom Hall Target of Arson Fire

  by kwr in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  boise - fire crews are investigating an arson fire that destroyed a boise church overnight.

  that fire happened at the jehovahs witness church just off of roosevelt and st. andrews just after 2 a.m. .

  when crews arrived on scene, they found the building engulfed in flames, and say someone set the fire intentionally.

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  Witnesses say they saw what appeared to be a couple of teens

  Is that (Jehovah's) Witnesses, or just witnesses? That 'JW speak' never quite leaves your head!
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  How Would You or Did You Leave The Organization??

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  by choice, with a little help from the elders, faded slowly, disassociated????

  how'd you get out?

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  serotonin_wraith

  I was raised in it, and escaped at 16 when I moved in with my mother. The only thing that stopped me doing it before was my age. I was never baptized, so I didn't have that burden.
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  Quotes on 2 Witness Rule?

  by serotonin_wraith in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i'm looking for some quotes from jw publications on the two witness rule, and i don't have access to old literature or the cd-rom.

  can you fine folk help me out?.

  just mention where it's from too, and that'll be a big help.

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  serotonin_wraith

  I'm looking for some quotes from JW publications on the two witness rule, and I don't have access to old literature or the CD-Rom. Can you fine folk help me out?

  Just mention where it's from too, and that'll be a big help. Or if it's been done, can someone help me with a link? Thanks.