Posts by fokyc

always wanted a bible i didn't have to carry, except preferably a more accurate one.... one thing i noticed was, remember how they'd have the brackets [] to indicate words inserted, according to them, to complete the sense of what was meant in the original languages?

i noticed that those brackets are gone, and the words are just in the text now.

fokyc

This is the link for the PDF:

http://www.jw.org/index.html?option=QrYQCsVrGlVlYR

This link is for the online Bible:

http://watchtower.org/e/bible/index.htm

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Marking?? WTH is that?

by Free!! in

i was a baptized jw for about 6 years in a spanish congregation.. and i never ever ever heard anything about "marking"... what is that??

i knew someone can be disfellowshipped, publicly/privately reproved or dissasociated themselves.. but i never heard of marking.. can someone please care to explain that term to me?.

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fokyc

MARKING DISORDERLY ONES

In his second letter to the Thessalonians, Paul warned of

certain ones who were walking disorderly and who if accorded

good standing in the congregation could exert an unhealthy

influence. Paul admonished the Thessalonian Christians "to

withdraw from every brother walking disorderly and not according

to the tradition you received from us." He further clarified that

statement by writing: "If anyone is not obedient to our word

through this letter, keep this one marked, stop associating with

him, that he may become ashamed. And yet do not be considering

him as an enemy, but continue admonishing him as a brother."—2

Thess. 3:6, 14, 15.

Occasionally, someone not known to be guilty of practicing a

grave sin for which he could be expelled nevertheless displays

flagrant disregard for theocratic order. This could include such

things as being grossly lazy or critical, being a profitless talker

who is a constant 'meddler with what does not concern him.' (2

Thess. 3:11) Or this could include one who is scheming to take

material advantage of others or indulging in entertainment that is

clearly improper. The disorderly conduct is not so minor that it can

be handled by applying Bible counsel and manifesting love; rather,

it is serious enough to reflect badly on the congregation and

potentially to spread to other Christians.

After giving repeated admonition to such an individual and

finding that he persists in disregarding well-established Bible

principles, the elders may decide that a talk should be given to the

congregation providing appropriate counsel concerning such disorderly conduct.

Elders will use reasonableness and discernment in determining

whether a particular situation is sufficiently serious and disturbing

to require a warning talk. This talk will not name the disorderly

one. However, those who are aware of the situation described in

the talk will take heed and limit their social contacts with such

individuals.

The loving concern and firm stand of faithful members of the

congregation could indeed move the disorderly one to shame and

repentance. When it is clearly evident that the individual has

abandoned his disorderly course, it would no longer be necessary

to treat him as a marked individual.

from "The Organization Book" pages 150-151

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New WT and Higher Education...Beware of the logical fallacy in the first sentence.

by maninthemiddle in

beware of the logical fallacy in the first sentence, not to mention all the loaded language.. .

wt 2011-11-15. .

11 vigilant christians refrain from using the world to the full with regard to higher education.. many people in this world consider higher education an indispensable stepping-stone to prestige and an affluent.

fokyc

When is this article to be studied?

January 9 - 15, 2012

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Court case against the WT in Belgium - NEW For discrimination

by Nick! in

jw
friends

court case against the wt in belgium.

you may recall that sometime ago i posted an information about it.. jacques lejeunes case, ex jw, who had won an appeal against the adverse second level judgment, will be heard for the last time in front of the mons court on october 18th.. this case is emblematic as it is the first time that the violation of human right against the wt will be heard.. jacques is determined to go to the european court of human rights if this last case will end up in favor of the wt.. whoever wants to join me in attending the trial in support of jacques is welcome.. believe that jacques deserves this support.. the case will be heard on october 18th at 2 p.m. and is planned to last 4 hours.

both jacques and the wt have already presented their memorandum which is available online on my website, but in french only.