It would appear that the organization is now brazenly acting like a global corporation and protecting it's assets, the people, from competitors, those of us advertising a better way of life, the real truth, and pursuing actions, legal and otherwise, in order to stop the loss of shareholder, GB, value.
..my two cents..
truth.ceeker
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Good evening, JW spy visitors...........
by Sunnygal41 ini have it on the most impeccable authority that our site is regularly monitored............my first reply was "lol...........no surprise.......we've known this for some time.........and we spy on their sites, also.
" my next thought, or rather vision was of the iconic "spy vs. spy" cartoon in mad magazine.............guess my years free are showing.........
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Do You Think ENGLISH Should Be The Official Language In America?
by minimus insome politicians are saying this would be "racist".
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Hello All,
My personal opinion. I think that in about 50 years or less, it really won't matter much what language you speak. I think that there will be some technological advancement made so that it really does not matter. Your native language may be spoken around the home or village so as to protect history and heritage, but when working or schooling, something will be handling translations between you and your audience. I can see it coming full circle to when there was only one language spoken around the world for the most part and the rest will either be relegated to historical archives or spoken of just for fun and bringing back memories.my two cents...
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Consider your Position
by KW13 in.
i found that before i heard of 607, un e.t.c it was how i was treated as young witness by people who were supposed to be christians.. backstabbing, gossip, lies and more.. .
once i found out about the un, 607 and found this site, it confirmed i'd made the right decision.. what was the thing that made you consider your position?
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I would have to say that it took several years listening to elders that we had as friends tell me about the un-brotherly things that were being done in the congregations. We had made some good friends with some good people, and I hope that one day they will make a decision to stand up for that is right and leave the harlot, but for now they stay.
For example, my wife and I were inactive in the field ministry but somewhat regular at the rest of the meetings. Well, when I was over at the elders house training him on the computer, he was telling me that the service overseer took out all of the cards of those inactive, including ours. Well, our friend said that was not right and had ordered the other elder to put our cards back in. You see, the service overseer wanted to make a good report to the CO, who was visiting next week by showing the CO that they were on top of things and all publishers were reporting time. In the end, the SO did as he was told by our friend and put our cards back in. I wondered why we never got a shepherding call, it's because we didn't exist in the congregation when the CO came around and they were way to busy to do that when he wasn't. Our friend had left that congregation and went to another.
Oh, I have more stories to tell, but from what I see, there are some good brothers, who wander from congregation to congregation, trying desperately to find a loving groups of brothers, but to no avail. I wonder how long they will keep searching?
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Elder says no to congregation picnic: Brooklyn says no large gatherings
by truthseeker inour congregation has really gone down in recent months.
the friends don't talk to each other, there have been many disfellowshippings and jc's.. an elder i was talking to in the kh after the meeting says that "he and the other elders would like to have a congregation picnic but can't because bethel disapproves of large social gatherings.".
i looked at this elder and felt sorry for him - it was like hearing a child cry because mother wouldn't let him outside to play baseball.. the cong.
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It seems that the Spanish congregations are having a good time with gatherings and picnics and parties, and such. Maybe other cultures are also having gatherings and more, but not the ________. I'm not sure if it is an ethnic thing or a cultural one, but when we were not attending our hall, we would be gathering with the spanish cong.'s and having a good time. It was nice to see people laughing, smiling and having a good time. People dancing and eating, just like other normal people, :)
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Bible Students, JW posters, and lurkers, please respond
by AuldSoul ini wrote this to someone else, but i think this demonstrates perfectly why i was outraged when i first found out that jehovah's witnesses do not teach that jesus is the mediator for all mankind.
it is true that they possess a different doctrine entirely, but to me the outrageous thing was that they do not actively teach any doctrine regarding jesus mediatorship.
this thread presents indisputable proof of that fact.. in my opinion, it is very important to remember that religions do not tell you the harshest doctrines or the most difficult doctrines to accept during the initial indoctrination phase.. do you have a copy of reasoning from the scriptures?
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AuldSoul,
I need some more information about your paragraph about the:
That reconciliation requires a mediator. There is no ransom otherwise. The application of the ransom requires reconciliation through a mediator.
I am having some discussions with my father, and mostly I need factual evidence in order to help him understand things. If I provide someone's reasoning, he will just point out that this is their "Opinion" and leave it at that. He is not JW and is also doing some spiritual seeking on his own.
I never knew this piece of information you are bringing out and I am surely going to ask my wife what she thinks of it.truth.ceeker
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A wake up call to those spiritually asleep.
by The Scotsman ini say live and let live.
we all need to make our own decisons in life but ---------
this site is full of moaners!!!
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This was a funny post by someone who deeply hangs on every letter of the Society's Doctrines. I remember how zealous I used to be for the Org until my eyes were opened and the light became brighter for me to see the truth. How funny it is that the teachings and wordsmithing of the society can be used against them as well. You know, that is the common mistake that almost all witnesses make when they hear some disturbing truth about the society, they all ask, "Where will we go?" It is a safety blanket for them so that they don't feel responsible for their own actions or be held accountable to GOD for their own minds. It is sad though, because they don't have to go anywhere, they only need to open up their hearts and allow the love of The Christ to enter them and be filled with a wonderful, lightly yoked, spirit. But they allow their eyes to be made dim and when someone comes along and wipes away the grime, the bright light of truth hurts their eyes and they go back to the darkness, because they feel more comfortable there.
We will all have to answer for our actions or lack thereof when the time comes.
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looking for letter to Circuit Overseers about blood
by lost_sheep ini was looking at ajwrb's timeline of the history of the blood doctrine, & noticed this : 2000 - in the spring, circuit overseers in the united states receive a letter instructing them to inform local bodies of elders not to disfellowship anyone who accepts blood transfusions.
if their conduct becomes known and they are deemed unrepentant, they will be considered to have disassociated themselves.
does anyone have a scan of this letter?
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Do you think that those in the wtbts would use guerilla tactics to flush out non-conforming co's and do's in a case like this? Since there was not an official letter, it may have been tightly controlled and if it got out, then the society would have a good idea where it could have come from and take actions to shore up it's wounds.
just curious
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The Discoveries of Barbara Anderson - Eyewitness to Deceit
by Dogpatch inhey everyone!
yesterday, may 15, 2006, gyldendal publishing company in copenhagen, denmark, published an expose' about the religion of jehovah's witnesses.
the name of the new book is, "dommedag ma vente," or, in english, "judgment day must wait," written by poul bregninge of denmark.
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truth.ceeker
Barbara,
Is there a place where we can read the full story found on the 27 pages you wrote? I am very interested in reading about your experiences so that I may share them with my family.
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Witnessing at the WalMart in Evansville, Indiana(pics)
by Jourles in.
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for your viewing, uh, pleasure?
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Wow! That is definitely news to me! I once ran into witnesses at several Texas Airports with their booths setup, but this one is by far the most blatant! I can hardly believe it but oh well, if that's where the people are at then the 'fishing' is going to be more productive. During a trip I had from Oregon down through California and across the southern desert states to Texas, I was run-down several times at hotels by what I call - Drive-By Witnesses. They roll up in their cars and offer the magazines and drive off to the next hotel. Amazing is what I thought as I stood for a moment and wondered with great wonder where their hearts and minds were at. No getting out and chatting, no offer of good news, just "Here are some magazine you might be interested in" and poof! they speed off.
..my experiences on the journey of life..
truth.ceeker(of the victim of a drive-by class)
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Need some good reasoning points
by mavie ini need to try and get my wife to examine her beliefs.
i hope to do this by getting her to think on her own.
i've already tryed doctrinal issues with no success.
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Hello Mavie,
I am going through a similar reasoning with my wife. I have been leaking out small amounts of information that I hope will plant some seeds that will open her eyes to the truth. And that the wtbts has been misleading and lying to it's members. Items such as child molestation and the mishandling of the reported cases by the elders. Since we have two young daughters, this is what I am hoping will really make her see how their ways are not safe, especially for children. I have also talked about how the society has been changing their doctrines. This one has not particularly struck any nerve, because I get the sense that things that the society taught us more than two to three years ago is no longer correct and that was the old light. Funny I think about how much things change with certain things and how much things stay the same with others.
Just this past weekend, when we had a visit by two young Mormon elders. She asked, "Why do they say they are from the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints?" I said that didn't she remember that we used to say we were international bible students when we were going door to door not so long ago? I also said that is where the Jehovah's witnesses came from and that the bible students are still in existence today and how Charles Taze Russell left the bible students and made his own sect. I could see that this left a mark in her mind as she was quiet for a few minutes before we talked about something else.my family's journey to the truth
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