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Moments of Epiphany... and other touchstones in life...

by AK - Jeff in

when i realized that 1975 was past, and the end appeared no closer than before.when a boe made up of men i had 'served' with for better than a decade were willing to write a letter of 'recommedation' that was character assassination at it's finest, and then defend the lies within with a straight face and no remorse.when i began to notice that many of the 'friends' seemed mentally unstable, in an organization that claimed it offered the greatest hope for mankind and the 'only true brotherhood' of supporter's available.when i saw a 'bible student' who was refused any assistance in her move to another congregation because of her sins before she was ever baptized [she never was in fact].when i was 'allowed' to conduct funerals and weddings that needed a minister, but for people who were too soiled in one way or another for the self-righteous upper-crust elders to touch.

yet they all attended and seemed to rejoice/mourn with all others in attendance.the day in the early 90's when i read a critique of jehovah's witnesses in which the author roundly condemned jw's eschatology regarding the '1914 generation', and in such article stated that they would have to renounce such foolish reasoning soon, before the end of the century to avoid being the 'relgious laughingstock' of the world.the day in 1995 when i saw his predictions come precisely true in the watchtower.when i watched and saw no other jw's bothered by this massive change in position.the months that i compiled a chart in which, using actuarial mortality figures, in which i applied the numbers, age-group by age-group to the 'annointed' from 1941 to 2002, and saw that it was empirically impossible for 8500 to still be alive.the month in which i read ray franz' books, and found myself aware that my life was about to change forever.october 2006, when after 3 years of 'fading' and staying out of sight, i submitted my letter of disassociation, and saw a look of happiness on the face of the friend-elder that took the document, though it meant the end of 20 years of personal friendship with him.the day my cousin - my best friend for 35 years - decided i was unworthy of even a reply to a simple email.the list is longer.

but so theraputic to put in words.

greater_freedom

Hey Jeff,

I enjoyed reading your journy through your experiance of jwism again. I have been away from here for some time.

Are you ready to go have a beer? I'm heading up your way later this afternoon.

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Service has gotten so lame...They didn't even ask why?

by FreeWilly in

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so the dubs were working my street this weekend.

unfortunately i got home just after they visited my house.

so i see a couple working a few houses down.

greater_freedom

I know what you talking about. Last Saturday, my son and I were picking up supplies for the game .

There is a Starbucks in in the store and wouldn't you know, there are ten witnesses having a break. Its 10:15 AM.

Service meets at 9:30. I did't say anything to my son because he is still defensive of the troof even though he hasn't

gone to a meeting in over a year.

So we do our shopping, which took 45 min, and we see a mom and little girl with the group come out of the restroom.

My son says, I thought I saw some JOHO's earlier. I was quite proud of him by the way.

So at 11:20 we are loaded up leaving the store. We stop to get gas in the same parking lot and there they are, still wasting

time getting snacks and soda at the gas station. My son again coments, the witlesses sure are getting in some quality time

today.

He made my whole weekend!

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What was the first mean/unjust thing you saw as a JW that affected you?

by Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit in

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think back.

you can list more than one.

.it's ok. how did you rationalize the actions of others?

greater_freedom

Within a year and half of my 16 yr old sons death from a car accident that left my 18 yr old blind and paralysed, the elders said its been long enough, get over it. (not getting enough service or missing too many meetings) I told them if it were they're sons, I would be over it. That was the begining of the end! Thanks brothers.

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JW are total Bullies

by sandy in

my grandmother passed away the other night.

it was expected; she's been sick in/out of the hospital for a while now.

most of us are more relieved than anything else because she has been so miserable these last six months or longer.

greater_freedom

Sandy, I'm sorry for your loss. I remember how upset I was, 6yrs. ago last Saturday, that I buried my 16 yr. old son. There was about 300

students from his school attended. The elder that gave the talk told those kids the same story. If they ever wanted to see Dustin again,

they would do well to become students of JWs. If I only would have got out that BS before....?

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Name only One - one only - the best only!!!!

by AK - Jeff in

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your absolute favorite song of all time.

no lists.

just your absolute favorite and artist.. mine:.

greater_freedom

For What It's Worth - Buffalo Springfield

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Are You 'Dreaming of a White Christmas' yet?

by AK - Jeff in

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oh, come on - somebody had to do this thread!

my stereo is rending xmas music as i type this - a wonderful celtic version of "the christmas song".

snow is flying outside my window - and i am getting in the xmas mood already.

greater_freedom

Hey Jeff,

We are ready! The snow is coming down and yesterday was day one of Christmas shopping. We should do a weekend meet at The Fort for shop-o-thon.

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Roll call time - What KH's have you attended.............

by Check_Your_Premises in

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naperville, dekalb, joliet......... il.

i tried to bump an old thread on this topic, but i couldn't find it.. anyone?

beuller?.

greater_freedom

Plymouth, IN

Jamestown, NY

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Today I was un-shunned.....

by AK - Jeff in

not typical of my sil to do more than just a casual greeting and look nervous when i run across her somewhere.

last time i met her in public at a restuarant she tried to weave across the room and hope i did not see her [fear of eating with an apostate i suppose.].

today the opposite - i came in to the restuarant and she was there, seated alone.

greater_freedom

Hey, I was un-shunned too today. I had to inspect a local contractor's electrical instalation and it turns out to be one of the elders who gladly accepted my DA letter back in May. I am on the planning commision as well as the BZA for our township. He talked to me for almost 30 mins. He wanted me to know his opposition to an ethanol plant being built in his nieghborhood. It will effect his quality of life. By the way, all his employees stopped work and joined in the discussion. They are all dubs too. I am of value now that he needs my vote.

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